Anyway yeah it’s definitely best I don’t push any of my reads today
I’m still giving my opinions but I don’t expect people to listen to me until after I flip
Consider it a legacy
And we know this forum doesn’t read dead players’ reads
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I will scrap my entire PoE and start with the few I’m certain are town
And so my only legacy will be townreads
Leetic is literally never getting voted out so I don’t really need to say anything there because it means I’m very likely wrong and I don’t get credit for scumreading them anyway since Uni pushed it the most
Nobody seems to think Uni is town except Gorta and me, and honestly that doesn’t really feel like it’s a good sign
I think YBW is town but then it means I’m not being agenda pushed so like… wtf
I really do not think the suicide bomb RT ever comes from a wolf so that really nails in the townread for me. I liked his progressions yesterday too, even if I disagreed and still disagree on some or all of his reads. But the progression was logical.
I forgot I was still typing a post and just hit reply
Oh well
YBW, Uni, maybe Dum, and idk if there’s anyone else, seem to either scumread me or think there’s a decent chance I flip scum
Leetic did that super weird thing where they asserted they townread me multiple times but basically were waving the threat of an imminent scumread in my face if I didn’t stop doing scummy things, which imo was debatable but also dodgy behavior coming from them because it seemed like a setup…Which is why I agreed on Uni’s push but Uni just thinks I’m scum with leetic lol
But yeah honestly it’s the way leetic has been handling interactions with me that I’m suspicious of
Yes OK you can argue it seems like omgus and you can twist all my reads and say i only scumread people who scumread me… I don’t think EggYolk did and I don’t think Wazza did, or at least they didn’t explicitly say they scumread me or I would’ve remembered it.
But it’s based on how people handle my slot and what their reasoning is, the progression and how their reasoning changes, or even more simply how well they explain their reasoning (because in cloned’s case I think his reasoning was ~ok once he gave that explanation later on in D2 but I didn’t understand the earlier posts)
Anyway, leetic isn’t here so none of this matters
I might do a tiered elimination list and go one by one and cross people off to veto their wagons today, and see what it leaves me with
But that’s easier to format on the computer and also not at 3 am so ill do it tomorrow, it’s a holiday here so I have plenty of time
whatever its called
I think that’s how I’ve gotten the most accurate read lists in games this year
I really need to sleep lol
Bye
Eh never mind I’ll do a sloppy one now
Ok this list isn’t updated lol lemme fix it
Step 1: All Living Players
Step 2: Players that aren’t commuted
(removed Kiiruma, leetic)
Step 3: Removing myself because I’m not self-voting
(removed WindwardAway, skip this obviously and remove yourself instead if you copy this)
Step 4: Removing my strongest townread
(removed Eli)
Step 5: Removing next strongest townread
(removed YBW)
Step 6: Same as above
(removed Gorta)
…and I’m gonna stop here cause I’ve narrowed it down to 3 names, excluding the two players who are commuted out of the thread because they probably can’t be voted. Im thinking the commute might have been used as a form of vote protection for them, but I digress. If nobody claims to have done it, and they come back to the thread and also don’t claim to have done it, we will know it was a scum action in which case at least one of them is scum.
Anyway this whole thing means that my personal vote pool is between Dum, Sharklifter and Uni
I really don’t want to vote Dum because I think they’ve really picked up on contributions, and as YBW said I think their reaction was pretty decent? Also their interaction with Eli yesterday, so unless those three are scum together I don’t think Dum is a hit. They’re just still in the PoE here because of the order in which I struck out names, which is exactly why this is effective.
Sharklifter feels like a crap shoot. They could flip either way and they could be a wolf with probably anyone, since they didn’t really interact with anyone in the thread except with me, and since I know I’m town, I guess as scum Sharklifter must’ve been afraid of spewing their teammates? This is still hypothetical but I would not veto a wagon here.
Uni, idk wtf I’m reading him as. I thought yesterday he was super obviously town but here he is sitting in the PoE with two other players that I thought were town all the way up to, well, now. So there’s something majorly wrong with my reads and Uni seems to be consensus scumread by everyone except me. I’m not convinced that’s a good sign, considering the EggYolk case, but when I didn’t listen to people on Leafia that also turned out badly. I think Uni had some really good points on Leetic but I’m trying to figure out whether it’s ever possible that they just performed massive scum theatre yesterday and distanced from each other while crossvoting, with leetic pressuring their own teammate for a good part of D1, knowing fully well that the wagon would never pick up and that Uni was never in any danger.
So, guys, tell me where I’m going wrong. I’d like to hear you out.
That took 20 min to type wtf
Ok I’m going to sleep now but ping me with feedback
This list is proof I miscleared people since it’s so radically different from my previous readlists
It’s not really a readlist since it’s just a pool of PoE, but it’s one way to ensure I have a reasonable number of players in the poe
Oh yeah forgot to mention
I don’t like how Uni backtracked on his Eli take
I also don’t like how I’ve had a lot of discussion with uni on his reads and felt like I was on the same page, but also in a totally different dimension at the same time because I mostly agreed with the leetic case but I find Uni’s potential team list to be highly questionable (partly because I’m on like, all the teams) and the sudden dismissal of the wagonomics clear on Eli is putting him within yeet range again just as several people asked if they could vote him today
Anyway @Universal whenever you’re here, or rather, whenever we’re both here, I’d like to bounce stuff off you
Yeah no, only two people scumread me and that is YWB and Dum. Dum scumreads me because my PoE is their town core, and YWB scumreads me because they heavily disagree with my Leetic scumread.
I have no idea what Sharklifter thinks of me aside from an interaction earlier today
Gorta reads me as town
Leetic even motioned for my slot not to be aligned with scum
And Kiiruma is gone so we don’t know.
Don’t try to hide your reasoning as a bandwagon with other people. You even agree with my take with Leetic which is what one of the people reading me as mafia bases their claim against me.
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And I never backtracked on my Eli analysis with their bandwagon. You want what I actually said?
This. That I’m just annoyed with Eli posting barely anything as far as I can tell.
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I am open with bouncing off ideas with you and trying to understand your intentions better, but this whole “Everyone scumreads him so he must be scum” when not even half of the players here scumread me just looks like you’re trying to find another wagon to go on.
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I have already stated before that that’s not why and have stated my actual reasons which u can check for urself bc I’m on mobile rn
n1 I was a dum dum and didn’t put one in and the next night I wrote a somewhat generic article (because I lack creativity) and didn’t know I could put get more wacky roles out of it