[Game End 2/13] Diamond Arc Crossing - Town Wins by Sorc Moment

The sentiment was mutual lol

Well, if Iā€™m going to silence someone, itā€™d be either someone who was a loud voice or someone who was a threat to scum, and Universal was able to basically AstroTurf suspicion around me since I wasnā€™t there to defend myself.

Still, I have no idea why people are clearing Wind or Gorta.

I saw you saying ā€˜Donā€™t sacrifice yourself Kiirumaā€™ and I was just sweating especially because by that point Leetic had already said about their action being mutual destruction

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Itā€™s light clearing atm.
Like, Iā€™ll just put it simply.
If you or Universal is a miss, weā€™re going to be looking between them both first.

And then if we have a deepwolf Iā€™m just going to cry

Iā€™m loud
But I was not a threat to scum at all until halfway through yesterDay I think
I was also becoming an increasingly scumread slot so leaving me in the thread to continue to say dumb things is exactly the right move if scum doesnā€™t want to night kill me instead

Light clearing is a contradiction, you need to have an open mind about all this. Iā€™d say no one is truly cleared right now, although if Windward is town it makes a lot of scenarios very unlikely. But still, if you donā€™t have a case on me besides ā€œall these other people are cleared for vague reasonsā€ then itā€™s not a good reason to vote

why are people clearing dum too

Addendum to this
If weā€™re right about the current scum team theory it explains why Iā€™ve been an agenda push and not night killed instead
None of those three have experience wolfing against me, and Iā€™ve only played with Uni before and I think maybe twice in total
Itā€™s easy for me to say this from my perspective but what Iā€™ve consistently noticed whenever other players push me in a game where Iā€™m town is that players who are less familiar with me will almost always try to push me because thereā€™s always a handful of posts I make, intentionally or unintentionally, that are absolute shit and easy to push on
But itā€™s pretty much always possible for me to worm my way out of a miselimination so wolves who already know about this tend, simply, not to push me or to townread me way too fast so they can have an excuse to kill me at night

So yes, Iā€™m an egocentric player, but how the votes move around my slot are a very good indicator for me personally on whoā€™s town and whoā€™s scum, because I know what the tendencies are and can smell out a fake read if Iā€™m conscientious enough.

Yeah, that is my one question that we have to believe Dum in order for much of the case on Universal to be true. A shark/Wind/Dum team isnā€™t fully outside the realm of possibility, though I would go for Wind first in that scenario. Uni flipping green would be bad for Dum though, although itā€™s possible weā€™re dealing with a roleblocker, especially if scum thought there was a chance of one of their own going down.

Yeah, thatā€™s kind of the catch - if scum roleblocked Dum, and theyā€™ll never tell us if they did, then the night results have no impact on the situation. Universalā€™s slot looks unimpressive otherwise though.

How is clearing peopleā€¦ not a good reason?
We have tiers of clears.

Myself and Dum are confirmed to have been activated N1.
And unless I believe Dumā€™s just been bluffing and riding it the entire time, then I believe itā€™s true.

Due to that Iā€™m clearing Dum unless all else fails.


I think Wind and Eli both had really towny reactions to our respective actions. Yet I know Windā€™s capable of deep wolfing and I mean, I think Eliā€™s skilled so theyā€™re my own lesser confirmations (Windā€™s only in PoE under YBW because Iā€™m paranoid of Wind surviving still and the amount of trust I put in her)


YBW has been just kinda solid? Itā€™s nothing that stands out too much and like Iā€™ll be honest, I donā€™t have a ā€˜clearā€™ for YBW except from the way theyā€™ve made suggestions today is likeā€¦ ok with a worldview?


You, Gorta and Universal are left over. With Wind as a side of paranoia due to surviving and Sharkā€™s letting her live.

Mostly for openly claiming the gun in the first place, I think
Also a couple other things at various points
Iā€™d reconsider Dum if Uni or leetic flips town (whichever one flips today since one of them inevitably will) but not before then
Voting out of paranoia before LyLo is probably going to result in a larger chance of a misyeet than sticking to the PoE first and reevaluating if it starts to go wrong.

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i thought we were clearing him for cleaning my card
but then i realized that could totally come from scum :wowee:

Scum would be stupid to let a Vig kill go through if they could prevent it, so I think itā€™s a safe assumption that Dum was roleblocked. This makes Dum actually less likely to be scum, since if he was he could shoot me and get rid of a town and wouldnā€™t be roleblocked. What this says about Universalā€™s alignment is unclear.

also yeah i agree

Quote broke, oops

I do have to ask though
If you think Dum could be scum with shark and me, why does scum!Dum decide to push the mafia diet instead of the goon and then tell the mafia diet not to vote the other goon

i probably could be skilled if i could actually get the WIM to play the game

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Probably because shark had disappeared at that point, and scum may have felt thread presence was more valuable than the Diet ability

But for my above mentioned reasons, Iā€™m willing to accept Dum as town

Also the fact that I said ā€˜I thinkā€™ is in itself probably a bit of a roast as it suggests uncertainty.
So uhh, no offence? Lol

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