I had thread presence and an amount of thread control.
I couldn’t have been doing it to ‘protect’ myself since I was in the best position of my ‘team’
I wouldn’t have just done it to make people suspect Leetic, because, then I could’ve just left them there or made one of my ‘teammates’ commute too
Like, seriously, I don’t see where the benefit of wolf!Kiiruma commuting is and I’m trying hard to look from a neutral perspective. I don’t know if I’m conf-biased and there’s some sort of blaring positive but I don’t see one, genuinely.
I see both of you benefitting as potential scum team with commuting me out.
Also if I knew things like ‘Give a fake gun to (x) tonight’ then why, if I knew that there would be a loverize would I ever commute myself out when I could take 2 town out together as a wolf? It doesn’t make any sense.
I mean I think if it weren’t for that whole inventor thing you would’ve been a wagon on d3, so it makes sense you went to the other dimension to avoid stuff then
I still need to take another look at gorta which I’ll do in a bit but you’ve also said a bit of what I think. You had threa presence and thread control which was gone d3, leaving town to wander and even though we almost executed wind executing Shark instead.
I also wanna know why you went from gorta to me so fast, if you truly scumread gorta more then you should push that
I don’t… get that though? ‘If it weren’t for that inventor thing’… like, the inventor thing happened and it was confirmed already to have happened. So that’s not a reason why I would’ve commuted?
Why when I have thread presence and thread control, as wolf, do I decide to leave? I’d not want town to wander about. I’d want to be able to influence things… the fuck?
I haven’t actually been individually pushing you since Wind’s thing. I’ve mostly been defending myself including defending myself against you and what I’ve said as ‘This doesn’t make sense for W!Me, it makes sense for both of you’ isn’t meant to be targeted at you. If that’s how it’s come across then sorry? But don’t try to blatantly misinterpret my words as I don’t see myself going at you
I thought all of that came out d3? Am i misremembering?
Potentially because the host misinterpreted your message, you were maybe trying to get leetic to leave for a bit and they took you as well or you wanted to try and talk to leetic to get a ML later (which happened) or change his mind on his reads
Yes, yes you are lol. IDK if purposefully or not, but you definitely are and you can check for yourself. That was D2. When myself and Dum were confirmed to have activated N1
I’m the most active one on the ‘team’ that’s being theorized… so I hate to point out the obvious but I wouldn’t risk anything like that, I am aware of the game and how things have been. I would’ve had another team member commute them out because it’s not like scum visibly did much that night?
I just want to understand so I can defend myself but trying to throw myself being commuted out and myself as wolf when I had became a bit townread, and somewhat had thread presence and thread control really just doesn’t make any sense to me.
@WindwardAway I’ve done my defences but please actually read this and try and understand it and explain it because I don’t get it. I never do that as wolf because all it does is harm my team and prevent me from organisation with my invention.
@YoubutWorse I don’t want to go on hard at you but please actually read the fucking game and check when things are instead of making assumptions because at this point I already know the wolf is you or gorta. And I don’t want to seem like I’m only pushing on you, I need both of you to actually do things. If we’re to discuss all worlds I need facts to be set straight
And if people are getting things wrong it makes it so damn hard to know whether they’re town who’s misremembering or a wolf who’s purposefully pushing agenda and making it so I don’t have anything to be able to stand my ground with (Unless Wind reads everything up and then has a ‘WTF’ moment)
I’ve been lowkey just flipping back and forth between my head on what to say and if it’ll make me more likely to get bombed but I need to say it because right now things aren’t funny and we’re on a ticking schedule rn.
@Gorta@YoubutWorse I want both of you to read the game, give thoughts as for your top town/top scum amidst us three and kinda just give things to work with. I can’t do this by myself.
And I can’t get which one of you I should suspect… if neither of you are doing things. So while you don’t necessarily have to do anything right now, please just do things. I don’t want to have to take a gamble and then Wind susses me because nobody else is becoming suspicious / I’m not able to defend myself and then we lose.
I mean you can look at our ISOs as see how we were in the past and how we interacted with other scum, that will definitely help you if thats what you want
I mean, from what I remember interactions wise from the top of my head, that would make Gorta worse than you. Especially since Gorta had been sussing Wind over Leetic and Uni. But I meant as in I wanted more stuff today to work with too because well this is the final day. It wouldn’t have to be if Wind didn’t just stop a bomb to herself
@WindwardAway just in case were wrong about how it works make sure to out publicly who you are choosing and stick with that when you do just in case it doesnt end the game
I’ve already explained away multiple things which you thought could make me scum though including the commute since the logic for the ‘You were gonna be a wagon if not for the inventor thing’ doesn’t hold up, so why am I still scummier than Gorta to you?
This post is kinda weird imo and not something i’d expect from gorta but I think, especially bc there wasn’t actually 12 more hours before day ended, that it’s fine
I honestly don’t think scum gorta comes in an tries to go for a no-exe D1, but then again if they’re scum thats exactly what they’d want us to think so… bleh
Townlean on what was a townlean
Also gives a townlean on shark and wind, one of which was scum but also really townread at the time.
This derp clear which could be easily faked but also makes sense to misunderstand to be honest. So far I still think gorta V
tries to push people into making content for social reads, probably following what leetic was saying at the time
due to some points from wind agreed that some of the people pushing the game forward had at least one wolf, and said he was gonna make a list of those people (and never did)
Keeps this idea up, don’t know exactly who were the people trying to do more on d1 other than leetic tho
Gives a townread to Uni
and to shark, possibly partnering him with both wolves.
sorry I just had to memorialize this again
So far Gorta TR Me (town), Shark (scum), and Uni (scum), along with scumreading dumb and scumleaning Wind (at least thats how im interpreting this)
this is all I gathered from Gorta’s ISO. Not looking from meta he is scummier than I remember and I might’ve been giving the fact that he was just more inactive than others too much credit. I guess I’ll do a quick skim of Kiiruma bc I have hw to do and haven’t even started
@WindwardAway If you have the time pls ISO all 3 of us to gather ur own thoughts on whos scum and whos town, bc really this whole decision relies on you
And bc it relies on u that means that u will be flamed post-game if ur wrong so make sure u aren’t
okay forget the whole skimming kiirumas iso thing i can maybe do it tomorrow if I have time and if wind is willing to cut time really close but I have a lot of stuff I need to do and I want to get good sleep so im gonna go for now
