[GAME THREAD 6/13] Risky Light Game: Featuring Rain - Day 4 - Mafia wonnered

[Professor]

@Trochilidae

@Professor

The amount of people jumping on Leafia for something that is likely NAI for her is pretty concerning.

concerning how so? does this mean you think one of the people pushing on leafia is a wolf or that you think the amount of people piling on leafia alone proves her innocence? if it’s the first then by all means go more in depth you can’t just say something like this and not elaborate because now i’m interested

I’m concerned because I think Brad and Frog are unlikely to both be wolves due to the timing and reasoning of their Leafia pushes coinciding yet completely ignoring the other’s push. This means that there is at least one villager pushing on Leafia for something that is NAI for her.

@BradLand

Some people as mafia in the beginning of the game question or react to things that are usually jokes, messing around, or things that aren’t apart of the game in order to try to give off that they are comfortable in the thread. The numbering of the posts could just be a thing that looks pro-town in a vacuum to cover up anything else that they’re doing.

This argument is essentially saying Leafia is a wolf that is trying to do something to look towny. The reasoning is backwards. How would she act differently as a comfortable villager compared to a wolf pretending to be comfortable? How do you know the numbering of posts isn’t simply pro-town without there being an ulterior motive? Your choice of word “could” in particular looks like you are trying to frame Leafia’s behaviour as wolfy without really believing it.

@Frog

Normally this type of player can’t be resolved quickly due the nature of processing information as a form of gameplay.

If you think I can’t be resolved quickly, why do you expect me to become obvious town later?

[Leafia]

I honestly probably would’ve included him if I was mafia although I’m not 100% certain.

[Frog]

uh okay lol, if you’re town you don’t have to let the cat out of the bag before you get a response you’re looking for lol

[Illwei]

@Frog

Also, I know literally no one here, I’ve vaguely heard of illwei

I feel honored

Im at work and probably shouldnt mobile post but @leafia its your “counting posts” thing while doing things like posting nothing three times in a row. I do admit there has to be someone doing something in the beginning before people can start posting really but the way you approaced tht was mmm imo.

I disagree woth frog and i thi m trochi’s entrace felt meh like yes theres excitement but thats nai tbh

[Trochilidae]

@Leafia

On second glance this post looks like Trochi is relaxed and comfortable but at the same time it has a slightly too friendly tone like he’s trying to make himself liked and it’s something I find slightly on the scummy side although I might be reading too much into it.

that’s the insecurity talking

@Leafia

As for Professor, I find them expressing concern about the slight pileup on me to be slightly villagery so I’m willing to give them a townlean.

do you find this villagery only because it’s defending you or do you have an actual reason

side note i’m liking brad so far especially this post
the way they came in at first with memes and meme votes seemed genuine and the fast switch from memes to serious reads is something i like as well especially as they aren’t afraid to shake up the thread with controversy which imo i don’t think a wolf would be brazen enough to do here

@BradLand

Some people as mafia in the beginning of the game question or react to things that are usually jokes, messing around, or things that aren’t apart of the game in order to try to give off that they are comfortable in the thread. The numbering of the posts could just be a thing that looks pro-town in a vacuum to cover up anything else that they’re doing.

[Frog]

If you’re town you have nothing to worry about, carry on broseidon of the seven seas

[spoiler]Also, I think anyone defending anyone at this stage is suss

Why does it feel like you’re white knighting Leafia here?[/spoiler]

[Leafia]

@Professor

This argument is essentially saying Leafia is a wolf that is trying to do something to look towny. The reasoning is backwards. How would she act differently as a comfortable villager compared to a wolf pretending to be comfortable? How do you know the numbering of posts isn’t simply pro-town without there being an ulterior motive? Your choice of word “could” in particular looks like you are trying to frame Leafia’s behaviour as wolfy without really believing it.

Interesting argument honestly although I can still understand Brad’s concern so I don’t think him having it is wolfy.

[Professor]

@Frog

Why does it feel like you’re white knighting Leafia here?

As of her latest string of posts, I officially am. I have no way of proving that I have the authority to be sheeped on this player, all you can take is my word for it, though I am pretty confident they are town.

[Leafia]

Hmmm, honestly that reasoning makes sense to me as that probably would be more likely to come from a wolf than a villager.

[BradLand]

@Professor

@BradLand

Some people as mafia in the beginning of the game question or react to things that are usually jokes, messing around, or things that aren’t apart of the game in order to try to give off that they are comfortable in the thread. The numbering of the posts could just be a thing that looks pro-town in a vacuum to cover up anything else that they’re doing.

This argument is essentially saying Leafia is a wolf that is trying to do something to look towny. The reasoning is backwards. How would she act differently as a comfortable villager compared to a wolf pretending to be comfortable? How do you know the numbering of posts isn’t simply pro-town without there being an ulterior motive? Your choice of word “could” in particular looks like you are trying to frame Leafia’s behaviour as wolfy without really believing it.

The main reason was that she’s over-reactive and going to things that if she was town she wouldn’t bother reacting to at all, like I said the ClonedCheese “first” post is something he’s done in every game and I’m sure she’s seen him do it plenty of times as well.
You brought up the “post count” thing and I simply stated why it can easily misclear her.

Also “Why do you scumread me, it’s only been an hour” is not a great defense either. I’ve caught mafia off of 2 posts in the beginning of a game.

[Frog]

@Leafia
Tell me how this makes you feel please
#56

[Leafia]

@Trochilidae

do you find this villagery only because it’s defending you or do you have an actual reason

Hmmm, good question. Honestly I’m not entirely sure. But it does feel like he wants to defend someone he thinks might be town but it could also be him having TMI that I’m a villager and trying to pocket me.

[Trochilidae]

@Professor

I’m concerned because I think Brad and Frog are unlikely to both be wolves

hmm is this simply a non w/w read or a scumread on one or the other

@Illwei

I disagree woth frog and i thi m trochi’s entrace felt meh like yes theres excitement but thats nai tbh

yeah that’s completely NAI for me of course i’m excited i haven’t played in forever and i’m sure i would be as a wolf too
that entire entrance was NAI for me and i question anyone who says otherwise

@Leafia

Hmmm, good question. Honestly I’m not entirely sure. But it does feel like he wants to defend someone he thinks might be town but it could also be him having TMI that I’m a villager and trying to pocket me.

if you had to give top scum and town lean rn who would they be
because i feel you’re waffling here

also for fucks sake can someone besides leafia engage me here

[Illwei]

Leafia the day you start reading me correctly ever is the day i start to worry

[Leafia]

A bit weirded out. It feels like he has TMI about me being town and is trying to pocket me right now.

@Professor Why are you so certain that I’m town?

[Leafia]

Top scumlean right now…hmmmm… honestly Professor with how hard he’s whiteknighting me. It seems like an attempt to pocket me to me. I want him to explain his read on me before I decide to vote him or not.

Top townread: Frog honestly. His read on me was more thought out than I thought it was and seemed a villagery way of thinking. None of my reads are that strong though.

[Illwei]

The townread on frog is bad from leafia imo

My read on leafia was a read based on how theyre playing specifically, and frog’s read was a generalized read easily made at the beginning that can be used incredibly easily by wolves. Leafia townreading frog over me there is lol

[BradLand]

What is your read on me?

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Test

[Professor]

@Trochilidae

the way they came in at first with memes and meme votes seemed genuine and the fast switch from memes to serious reads is something i like as well especially as they aren’t afraid to shake up the thread with controversy which imo i don’t think a wolf would be brazen enough to do here

How exactly was wolfreading Leafia controversial? Two people before them expressed wolfreads on the slot before them…

@BradLand

The main reason was that she’s over-reactive and going to things that if she was town she wouldn’t bother reacting to at all, like I said the ClonedCheese “first” post is something he’s done in every game and I’m sure she’s seen him do it plenty of times as well.

Leafia often wastes posts unnecessarily fixing typos or responding to every little thing. It’s NAI.

@Trochilidae

hmm is this simply a non w/w read or a scumread on one or the other

It’s a non-W/W read now. I thought Brad was slightly wolfy, but I don’t think his response to my questions were bad.

@Trochilidae

@Illwei

I disagree woth frog and i thi m trochi’s entrace felt meh like yes theres excitement but thats nai tbh

yeah that’s completely NAI for me of course i’m excited i haven’t played in forever and i’m sure i would be as a wolf too
that entire entrance was NAI for me and i question anyone who says otherwise

Honestly? I think you sound deflated.

@Leafia

@Professor Why are you so certain that I’m town?

If I were to go into detail, it would end up making my identity rather obvious. Therefore, I will save that for when you are about to be mislynched at the end of the day. I will, however, elaborate on some things so you can understand my perspective. My first reason was the way that you perceived Illwei’s scumread on you as fake. This is a belief likely to be held by someone who knows that the scumread is incorrect, whereas a wolf would be more likely to think it was genuine. Secondly, the way you have presented a number of your reads without the purpose of agenda, approval or OMGUS cements that you are not playing in your wolf meta.

@Leafia

Top scumlean right now…hmmmm… honestly Professor with how hard he’s whiteknighting me. It seems like an attempt to pocket me to me. I want him to explain his read on me before I decide to vote him or not.

This is a good (edit: example). I know you well enough that as a wolf here you would have voted me without waiting to hear my read. The fact you’re waiting for my response shows an intent to solve my slot which you struggle to fake as a wolf.

I must ask though, why do you think I would be trying to defend and pocket you? As a wolf it would make much more sense for me to allow you to continue receiving pressure, knowing you often implode as either alignment and can easily descend into a point of no return a la Warrior Cats, especially after Frog commented that defending anyone this early is wolfy. Tell me I’m wrong.