[Game Thread - ENDGAME 2/17] The 'Supa Mario' Sorcerer17 - Mafia Wins

[Marluxion]

also i’m realizing my read is like the exact same read wisdom pockets me with every time she’s a wolf

[Arete]

I’m going to sleep soon

ask your last minute questions now

[BradLand]

Why wouldn’t you look at me during?

[Outedwolf]

how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood

[Arete]

roughly 700 pounds, apparently

[Vulgard]

@Arete

outed wolf (to be clear this is an actual serious ‘vaguely mildly sketchy’ read not a ‘haha he’s an outed wolf’ joke like I made earlier)

i think arete is significantly more likely to ignore outed wolf completely than they are to bring him up all of a sudden at that timeframe, especially as a suspicion, if arete/outed wolf are w/w; this is based on my perception of arete’s wolfgame
so basically i’m saying arete/outed wolf aren’t aligned

@Arete

I was making a read on the player with the username Outedwolf who as far as I know uses he/him pronouns

that’s another mildly unaligning post between them so yeah it adds up a little
would lock it in if outed commented on arete at all but either way i’m comfortable enough with putting this on the list

@Arete

I think Outed is wolfier than the other lowposters because of this half of his first post

@Outedwolf

hi all. just checking in, won’t be around till later today.

if you won’t be able to post until later, there’s no reason to check in and not say anything, you can just … wait until later and then post. it’s not like we were halfway through the day or anything where an explanation might actually be necessary

so it feels like he just wanted to be like ‘guys look at me I’m not abandoning the game thread!!’

this is worse than the other lowposters because by in large they either had some reason whatsoever to post, or just haven’t posted at all (e.g. Marl is probably asleep regardless of alignment which is NAI)

and then you have this
so yeah unalign
wolf arete has no reason to bring outed wolf into the spotlight like this if they are partners
the thread at large was completely ignoring the slot
arete could too, and in my opinion, they would

@Leafia

I do think Arete should apologize to Wazza for the way she’s been towards her too.

i think this is super unaligning with arete and wazza both
i simply don’t think leafia writes this post while having either of these people on her team
this would be handled in scumchat, and this is very unlikely to be a wifom post specifically designed to make me turn it into an unalign lol

@Atlas

@BradLand

TOWNREAD ME GOD DAMMIT!

locktown

unaligning
too quick and too blatant to be a townread on a partner
yes i know it’s a joke but i still think the self-awareness wouldn’t have allowed him to

@clonedcheese

Personally im more on arete’s side here - skimmed through the wazza/arete stuff but their behavior looks like me going “whoa i finally go something haHA” but better

This post sets me off tho cuz it’s a weird response to vul’s accusation - they’re not accusing that Arete is not questioning wazza, only that the questioning is fruitless

Arete or Wazza+Vul is what I kinda get from this

i think this assessment of arete vs wazza is yikes and tmi indicative

@clonedcheese

@Marshal

Because what they are getting at is a specifically villagery line of questioning (I’m not gonna spoil it but I know why the question was asked) and it’s exactly the question village arete wild ask.

Why is this specifically villagery and not just arete being arete

You may have something but you’re not communicating it

@clonedcheese

@Marshal

if I was mafia I could have just predicted the posts and said your point before you

Someone translate for me what this means

@clonedcheese

@Marshal

“cloned usually doesn’t like early townreads without reasoning so it’s very weird for him to tunnel someone after they give reasoning, so I asked this to see if he was being serious about tunneling after giving reasoning or just joking.”

W hat

Marshal be having too many eyebrow moments from me

leaning toward this being unaligning on both sides

@Arete

semi-conflicted on Brad, he is very different from every past time I’ve seen him as town, which is probably >rand wolf since he’s super polarized, but if I’d never seen him play before I think I would think that his response to my questioning was villagery (particularly w.r.t. the bit where I was asking about why he had done a thing he thought was wolfly if he was town), but also I kind of thought he was being appease-y by townreading everyone who scumread him

i actually like this take on brad
doesn’t unalign them but i like it

arctic isn’t a wolf with: marshal, youbutworse
arete isn’t a wolf with: atlas, leafia, outedwolf, wazza, youbutworse
atlas isn’t a wolf with: arete, bradland, cloned, eli, wazza
bradland isn’t a wolf with: atlas, mistyx
cloned isn’t a wolf with: atlas, marshal, min
eli isn’t a wolf with: atlas, leafia, wazza
marshal isn’t a wolf with: arctic, clonedcheese, wazza
min isn’t a wolf with: cloned, youbutworse
mistyx isn’t a wolf with: bradland
outedwolf isn’t a wolf with: arete
wazza isn’t a wolf with: arete, atlas, leafia, marshal, eli
youbutworse isn’t a wolf with: arctic, arete, min

numbers:

5 unaligns: arete, atlas, wazza
3 unaligns: cloned, eli, marshal, youbutworse
2 unaligns: arctic, bradland, min
1 unalign: mistyx, outedwolf

[Vulgard]

arete atlas and wazza are approaching a spot where i think they’re villagers based on the sheer number of people they’d be spewing town if they were mafia

cloned’s unalign with marshal is weak, his response to my initial push on him was weaksauce, his treatment of arete vs wazza is yikes, and i independently townread the two people he’s unaligned with more strongly than with marshal, so yeah

cloned’s probably a wolf

mistyx and outedwolf both notably lack unaligns but it’s also directly tied to their low presence in this game so far so i don’t think that’s very significant

brad/arctic/min having few unaligns despite having a decent presence might be significant but i’m withholding judgment on that one

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Sparknotes?!?!

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

I think marl is clearly mafia but other than that I’m unsure what’s going on with all this unaligned bs.

[Vulgard]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

I’m unsure what’s going on with all this unaligned bs.

narrowing down what wolfteams can plausibly exist in this game based on people’s interactions with each other

marl being mafia isn’t too unlikely considering he has 0 unaligns, and he’s also townreading me when nobody else is (i’m pretty sure), so i could buy it

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Looking at who is unaligned instead of just scummy people before we flipped wolves seems pretty waffly to me tbh.

[BradLand]

@Vulgard

townreading me when nobody else is (i’m pretty sure)

Do I not count!?

[Vulgard]

kiiruma / marl / hippo have 0 unaligns and the only player there who i independently townread is kiiruma so this grouping probably has at least one wolf and that wolf could reasonably be kiiruma who i awarded too much credit
or marl or hippo really
or there’s more than 1 wolf in here

[Outedwolf]

its kiruma thx

[Vulgard]

i mistakenly unaligned brad and mistyx on my previous list
there was an interaction between them which i initially thought was unaligning (mistyx’s initial push on bradland) but then their interaction turned into something i could see wolves having so i removed my comments about it but forgot to change the list accordingly

correct list:

arctic isn’t a wolf with: marshal, youbutworse
arete isn’t a wolf with: atlas, leafia, outedwolf, wazza, youbutworse
atlas isn’t a wolf with: arete, bradland, cloned, eli, wazza
bradland isn’t a wolf with: atlas
cloned isn’t a wolf with: atlas, marshal, min
eli isn’t a wolf with: atlas, leafia, wazza
marshal isn’t a wolf with: arctic, clonedcheese, wazza
min isn’t a wolf with: cloned, youbutworse
outedwolf isn’t a wolf with: arete
wazza isn’t a wolf with: arete, atlas, leafia, marshal, eli
youbutworse isn’t a wolf with: arctic, arete, min

numbers:

5 unaligns: arete, atlas, wazza
3 unaligns: cloned, eli, marshal, youbutworse
2 unaligns: arctic, min
1 unalign: bradland, outedwolf

[Vulgard]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Looking at who is unaligned instead of just scummy people before we flipped wolves seems pretty waffly to me tbh.

i think cloned is wolfy regardless of unalign stuff
i also think outedwolf is wolfy
there’s two

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

kiiruma / marl / hippo have 0 unaligns and the only player there who i independently townread is kiiruma so this grouping probably has at least one wolf and that wolf could reasonably be kiiruma who i awarded too much credit
or marl or hippo really
or there’s more than 1 wolf in here

add mistyx to that list
if all 4 wolves are here i will laugh

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

@Vulgard

kiiruma / marl / hippo have 0 unaligns and the only player there who i independently townread is kiiruma so this grouping probably has at least one wolf and that wolf could reasonably be kiiruma who i awarded too much credit
or marl or hippo really
or there’s more than 1 wolf in here

Is this not a really weird and roundabout way to deduce, why aren’t you just looking at people you scumread instead of numericals of number of aligned people.

Who ever does that lol

[Vulgard]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Who ever does that lol

me

[BradLand]

Like I don’t think I saw Vulgard doing this during Min FM but it was a much smaller game, annnd I’m not sure what this benefits for him as scum other than “busy work” this game.