[Game Thread] Morbtainado - Morbfia EPIC win

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#2541

Not sure this is the best idea. How sure are you that Magnus is a wolf here?

#2542

A deepwolf is a possibility honestly. I doubt both wolves are in deep though.

#2543

Now to try again to get some sleep. :sleepingleafeon:

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#2544

Jaiden’s more likely to flip as wolf by more than half, in my opinion.
If there’s a deepwolf, they’ve taken the Kanave/Magnus evil slot, which isn’t something we can safely and readily assume without further information. Presumably, until either one of us has been executed and flips Town, which isn’t guaranteed.

I will henceforth refer to the executed player between us as the “Scapegoat” and the surviving target as “Suspect”, in a world where the former flips town. In worlds where the latter is also Town, I’ll just refer to the last remaining wolf as such.

As soon as the Scapegoat is executed and the day ends, the Suspect is the only player to immediately know there’s a deepwolf if they’re town, and will have the unwanted task of proving this fact to everyone else who’s left, the players lacking this vital information. Most importantly, this Suspect would need to convince the entire Town to turn their gaze elsewhere and find the actual deepwolf, whichever player’s been incorrectly assumed to be Town. They’re also going to have this objective as Mafia in scum!Suspect worlds, which means everyone else still needs to examine the case thoroughly and thoughtfully.

So let’s talk about this. In Town!Suspect!Kanave worlds, this post seems to suggest an inclination towards surrender, not actual surrender, but would Kanave actually be willing to fight tooth and nail, as hard as Wolf!Suspect!Kanave presumably would? Whereas I feel my D1 shows a stubborn streak, a refusal to just give up and die, although that could backfire on town if I was either Town or Mafia.

As well, those surviving players need to demonstrate clarity of thought and a willingness to consider both the possibility of Town!Suspect and Wolf!Suspect worlds, whether it’s Kanave or I there. Think of it like jury service. However, it will be up to the suspect themselves to convince everyone not to execute them if they’re Town, although we can’t just save whichever one of us is more convincing because one of us can still reasonably be Mafia.

Here’s my suggestion: whomever is executed between Kanave or I, decide that as per usual rules. If they flip Town, the whole situation arises which I will try to explain more in-depth later.

#2545

if they flip imo we just kill the other, i think we just accept t/t worlds for you and i as a loss and move on bc we lose too much ev in w/v worlds by considering it

#2546

In worlds where you’re Town, and if I’m exed first and flip Town, are you seriously telling me you’d just lie down and die?

#2547

I mean I’d try, but Im fairly sure we lose that 99 times out of 100

#2548

I’d agree with that estimate, although I can’t say I’d give up there either if the roles were reversed.
So yeah, play normally, and if one of us dies and flips Town, the other has the difficult job of winning the game for us.

#2549

hello everybody this is morning jaiden
ill read up properly in a few hours but i gotta say
i cant believe i have more votes than the person who made a comment about “lockscum”'s reads, then tried to say it was just them talking to themself in the second person in thread while talking to someone
after apologising for saying the comment to lockscum because it was mean

hello???
idc abt what happened earlier now the fuck is that

#2550

This part makes me assume you’re talking about Leafia, but I’m not entirely sure since she has one vote (your vote), and you have zero.

#2551

…when did everyone unvote
i should stop trying to read at like 6am

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#2552

i stand by what i said but like 4 hours earlier when i was at L-1

#2553

Mainly because I insisted we deal with the Magnus/Kanave W/V situation.

#2554

okay rereading this block I think your misunderstanding something. I’m not saying I wouldn’t fight, obviously I’d still try but i’d be trying witht he knowledge that its probably hopeless. The thing im doing more when throwing out those worlds, is not even giving them the thought that they seem to be taking up today. I dont want to spend basically any of today talking about V/V you and I worlds because I think they’re very unlikely. I don’t like how much you’re dwelling on unlikely worldviews

#2555

My current likeliest wordview is just Kanave/Jaiden scumteam. If you’re Town, you automatically know this worldview is impossible.

#2556

Open your eyes and read my posts.
You’ll find your answer.

And again WOW in the same post that I quoted.

#2557

This dude has made over 10 wolfy posts this game.
I’d say pretty damn sure.

#2558

IDRC if we vote Jaiden or Magnus as long as we vote one of them.

#2559

I specifically asked “in worlds where I’m not” since you specified Magnus/Jaiden or Magnus/Squid.

#2560

Dude either claim wolf or don’t post until you bother to read the damn post I made completely.