(thank you leafia for once again contributing nothing to the conversation)
no you were bullshitting
one of many examples from up there
if it was so obvious why’d you take the bait
I reaction farm, its how I play
I think we all have choices. For example, you say “I play like this regardless” and I say “I don’t have a choice. I can hear Jaiden doesn’t play like this as scum but I also can’t ignore what I’ve seen.”
I don’t think anyone would like hearing that about their own game but it’s exactly what you are doing to Leafia, and you are left to apparently wonder why she might be employing OMGUS against you.
I can understand the viewpoint of ‘not feeling strongly’ about wolf games. My game varies on confidence of wolves which is why I do my earnest best to have a good town list so I can reflect on that and go from there. I don’t think I have really seen who you are loving to be town right now, though. It hasn’t stood out anyway. None of your thoughts have really popped off the screen.
As I said, I feel like this is just showmanship at this point. Which I can appreciate, of course. I like to put on a show myself. However it feels a lot more wolf motivated than town motivated. You have plenty of other things here other than stubbornness. You just don’t reach out for them.
Also I feel like I mentioned Leafia’s meta either day 1 or day 2. I noted that Pigeon would fit the profile of a wolf Leafia buddy with how she interacted with him but past that Leafia looked much different. I just don’t think you were paying attention to what I have been saying as the game goes on.
You being stubborn against one of my certain town reads means I can never let you live past today. I feel as if you are intelligent enough to understand my view of the game state. So again, it’s just audacity. It’s "Look what I am doing! No wolf would dare!’ said the wolf, you know?
In truth, I barely remember day 1 myself at this point.
As for Leafia, let me tell you what I gather.
Leafia has no actual confidence in herself. She has, multiple times this game, just whiplashed her reads and you pointing out that example as an 'a-ha!" is just not doing anything for me.
At one point she was top town reading me and the next point talking a tinfoil theory. Then she was back to reading me town the next post. She has done the entire hokey pokey with Magnus. She will tell people she’s suspicious of ‘good point’ on people she’s not suspicious of. If anything last game she was much more rigid in her stances than this game where she is floating like a ball of fluff.
Oh it was about Zorvo day 1.
The comment about projection.
Found it.
Telling the truth isn’t bsing Jaiden.
And here you confess to being a wolf basically.
Also, if you’re so sure I’m a wolf, who’s my scumbuddy then? You don’t know much if anythhing about how I play Jaiden. You should listen to those that do. I don’t know hoe you could’ve thought that pushing me was a good idea honestly.
my issue was more with her literally just lying in thread but alright
oh id be doing this as scum
except maybe my early d1 was too loud for my first scumgame being so early on this site
i mentioned earlier that if I was scum misty would be my most likely partner due to me being more comfortable in that scumteam, knowing her ability and such
but I feel like just misty wouldnt be enough
if I was scum with misty I’d also need to be scum with someone im at least decently familiar with for my d1 to make sense, like eliza, which clearly is not the case but self meta doesnt mean much
I just went over my reasoning and how its not just stubbornness
also already said stuff about the audacity part
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given everything that just was said, I understand your viewpoint even less
alot of the things you brought up either didnt matter, were defending leafia, or actually said more about me leaning towards town
me being in a poe is fine, clearly, but you seem more motivated to make sure I know my read on leafia is wrong than actually solve and win the game for town
lets go back to this for example:
what is this? a proxy omgus? It’s like you want me to die due to my pressure on leafia more than me being in the poe
you never did comment on leafia crumbling, by the way.
are you planning on doing that? because from the looks of it you arent
why arent you?
you stuck yourself into a metaread and never let go
your posts are making less and less sense every time and honestly its quite annoying to watch you bounce around avoiding just tackling the issues directly
go ahead
don’t put everything behind paragraphs of little use and just say what youre thinking
it should only take a sentence to put your point across
follow me:
I, despite leafias scum meta supposedly contradicting it, cannot ignore the sheer amount of contradictions she has made in the thread as well as her piggybacking on zorvo, and will scumread her because of that.
One sentence. all it takes.
try to keep it short for me :)
Now to get something to eat. 
Just because youthink something is a lie doesn’t automatically make it a lie.
Regardless of your alignment, it’s stubbornness and an unwillingness to listen.
Now to really get something to eat.
avoiding tackling the issue of contradicting herself mid post
see: silent hill joat 10er
i reaction farm. as town. yes. town reaction farm too. big deal.
this is already well established
youre very aware I already responded to this
“Please townread me youre bad”
completely null sentence
“No”
why do you need me to townread you? I thought I’m lock scum
this is exhausting
time for coffee
Ok. No paragraphs. I want you dead because you have played inconsistently, you don’t come off as genuine, and your progression isn’t townsiding in any way. Additionally Misty’s treatment of you is poor. I think Leafia is town, if you’re going to tunnel her and not listen to anyone on it then I’ll just assume you are wolf hoping for endless audacity points.
I’m not stuck in anything. If you have a specific post I’ll look at it, but half your points are ‘yes, but…’ and the other half is ‘you aren’t actually addressing this’ when I’ve addressed it. I’ve examined this game front to back and side ways in various different ways. If you feel I have missed something then bring it up.
Those may still be paragraphs.
Well I did my best.
buddy
one sentence
Maybe in another life tbh
the floor is examples
inconsistent how? what experience do you have with me to know how consistent I am as town?
not genuine about what? what am I trying to gain from it? when was this? if it was the entire game you have to give examples from the entire game, by the way.
why isn’t my progression town siding? do you have examples?
why is mistys treatment of me poor now? earlier you were saying how it came out with me looking townie. in fact I asked you to comment on something to do with that and I don’t think you ever did. Why not?
this is quite a change in tone from you, have you chosen to stop beating around the bush yet?
I’ve already made my points clear on this and you should know that
its rather hard when alot of your points are buried within strings upon strings of semi related details which very well might be true
I believe this is in response to exactly one thing which is the recent leafia scum game, so your over exaggeration is not helpful given the complete lack of examples
you understand the thread is right here correct?
you could’ve at least gave an example without quoting anything but you know that would just be the recent leafia scum game
there isnt anything to that
oh, I’m sorry, I must’ve missed it in between your random comments of completely unrelated garbage
i really have no idea where youre getting this from, ive commented plenty on the things youve said and youve just chose not to respond to them
the several times ive asked you about the leafia quote where she contradicts herself in the same post would beg to differ
please stop pretending youve been putting the effort in when you clearly havent
you have not !
giving up is the correct thing to do here totally
how is it difficult to sum up your opinions in a sentence
ill end on this. while you maybe did reply to it, you absolutely did not answer the question i gave you
you avoided it, once again, through large paragraphs of interconnected points which dont mean much at all
you, instead of answering the question on what changed, talked to me about stuff before this opinion was stated, stuff after which was clearly NAI, or stuff after which painted me as town more than scum
can you really say you did your best?
i will now leave the thread on that so I can have the feeling that I succeeded. goodbye for now
Pretending that I contradicted myself midpost.
So? You basically admitted to shading me to try and make me look scummy.
And yet you can’t answer the question and if I really was a wolf, you’d be able to. I’m not good at not spewing my wolfbuddies after all.
Here you go putting words in my mouth like you have been doing all game.
A true one too
Is this seriously all you have to say about that?
[quote=“Jaiden, post:2649, topic:2676”]
I never once said I need you to townread me.
inconsistent how? what experience do you have with me to know how consistent I am as town?
We both know the answer to the second question, as for within the context of this game your tone has been all over the place and your results have been as well. The only time you can seem to ever get pumped is when it’s about you directly. Otherwise you are a docile doe.
not genuine about what? what am I trying to gain from it? when was this? if it was the entire game you have to give examples from the entire game, by the way.
I think you are giving reads and posting things to position yourself in such a way to be town read, rather than solving the game. Your day 1 had this in places, you’ve outright admitted to it in your interactions with Min, your treatment of me for most of the game, and now your read and progression on Leafia come off as “I am town guys!” rather than genuine efforts to solve.
Like I said, you are eager to link us your meta but don’t listen about other people’s. It’s self-interested in the same way Misty got angry when I suggested she be shot.
why is mistys treatment of me poor now ? earlier you were saying how it came out with me looking townie. in fact I asked you to comment on something to do with that and I don’t think you ever did. Why not?
I did. I read day 1 and thought you looked fine. I read day 2 and 3 and thought you looked much worse. I noted that I set aside the ‘going after achro’ bit because I am uncomfortable how much it appeals to my own ego to assume you wouldn’t do that as wolf.
this is quite a change in tone from you, have you chosen to stop beating around the bush yet?
I’ve already made my points clear on this and you should know that
I think in long structures because I am constantly weighing nuanced thoughts against each other. I type what I am thinking. However, when someone tells me this:
don’t put everything behind paragraphs of little use and just say what youre thinking
I do my best to accommodate. On top of that, I don’t like being told what I am doing is of little use. It’s irksome.
But anyway since you want to call my comments ‘random’ and ‘garbage’ I won’t bother further.
VOTE: Jaiden
To be honest, getting a little tired of playing with people who can’t form a cogent argument and instead try to attack the fact that I…
checks notes
Type words.
It’s a skill issue on your part if you are town, get over it. Don’t think you are town though, and I won’t be baited.
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mfer you literally cannot make a straight answer to anything I say
that is the issue
you have avoided every single thing I have tried to talk to you about and you’re getting pissed that I’m calling you out on that
the fact that youve still ran around responding to this:
is so telling of how you care more about me challenging your viewpoint than me actually being scum
the main point of my post there was to make you to give real examples. which you didnt. good job! you managed to respond to every point I’ve made without reading a single one.
I gave you clear indication that I wanted you to be more concise on your points and sum it up with a single sentence and you proceeded to give me two paragraphs with vague statements like “Misty’s treatment of you is poor” and what I hope is intentional ignorance towards several things I have already said to you
dont think because I’m going to pull punches because youre so sad I dare challenge leafia in any way :(