[Game Thread] Morbtainado - Morbfia EPIC win

[Leafia]

It’s alright and I hope that you feel better soon.

[Magnus]

This actually feels like towny behaviour and I don’t like it, because it makes me feel hesitant about my own reads.

[Leafia]

The thing that scares me is that everyone currently alive has villagery things in their favor and it scares me.

[PoisonedSquid]

Sounds good to me. At least one of you are most likely to be wolves, so it should work out if we don’t screw up :’)

[Leafia]

I hope we don’t screw this up.

[Achromatic]

The plan is to talk it out. Then, even when someone dies tonight, there is a record of how they felt about the situation.

We have 3 town alive today and 2 tomorrow. It’s always better to get as many perspectives as you can as early as you can.

I don’t know how to feel about people thinking this is sound logic x(

[Leafia]

Anyway, going to call it a night now, so good night everyone.

[PoisonedSquid]

Alright, so if we’re gonna focus mostly on Kanave and Magnus, I think we should hear some explanations of some of their actions to hopefully sort out which of the two is scum

[Achromatic]

Okay Prosecutor, show us what you got ;o

[Achromatic]

That was meant to be an invitation to squid to bring up pain points so i coukd judge how genuine they are being.

X(

[PoisonedSquid]

I thought this was about Kanave and Magnus talking about their reasoning for their actions HNGGGH

Also my body mcdied so uh…

[PoisonedSquid]

Hell, it’s still giving me a bad time now so I’m just gonna

Lego Yoda Death - Sound Effect (HD)

[Achromatic]

Please dont die.

Do you have any posts from them you want to highlight?

[PoisonedSquid]

Hmm… I’ll need to look through them a bit. It might be slow, but I think I can find a few things at least

[Achromatic]

Thank you!

[Leafia]

So Squid remembered how to post. Good. Giggles I was starting to think all of you had died and it was just me.

[PoisonedSquid]

Let’s start with some Kanave posts to look through since she has less posts

Day 1

@Kanave

Claims not to be emotional

Next few posts:

@Zorvo

Bro!!! Do you think I was serious?

@Zorvo

Got allot of things against that dude and he hasn’t responded Townie or Genuine to me once.

@Zorvo

Relay to mist, Every thing Magnus had done that I called them out on.

@Kanave

at this point I think i prefer pidgeon, would rather not give the scum mroe options since im not sold on ethier over the other paticularly

@Kanave

i… I guess yeah?? idk i just kinda want to vote pidgeon here like; idk sorry i got nothing. I can vote Magnus if you want to see how the wagon moves but shrug

@Kanave

@epitau

i am not a wolf, no, but i have nothing to prove that

VOTE: epitau

@Kanave

bro they have 10 posts what is there to defend

@Kanave

@PoisonedSquid

I don’t like the sudden speed on the wagon and how little resistance there is

is that not a comment on no one defenidn it

@Kanave

@Achromatic

mostly because it made me smile when you did it

<3

@Achromatic

What did you think about my Kingmaker idea? You can find it in my iso if you didn’t see it.

I think its very likely that results in 2 townies being executed,
but I’d still be in favor of giving it a try because I think the amount of info we get day 2 when people ethier push for us to follow through or not would be worth the risk
not like we’re any more likely to hit a wolf d1 without it

@Kanave

@Apocryphal

I forget, who’s more likely to read too deeply into rvs votes, wolves or townies?

I dont htink looking deeply into RVS is in-of-itself ai but the reasons why can be. Do you think they’re genuinely trying to get things out of RVS or are they just latching onto whatever is there in an attempt to play the game

@Kanave

@Mistyx

on a serious note i have no idea how you think playing mafia is objectively more stressful than playing town

one bad townie hurts their team way less than one bad mafia, so on an objective level there’s more stress on you as a member of the mafia. ofc people value each alignment differently so

@Kanave

@thepigeonnyc

Eliza does feel like she’s trying to hard-defend Leafia

didn’t eliza say Leafia was wolfy despite not liking the push?

@Kanave

@Magnus

If Leafia wasn’t the first execution, who would you want to see gone?

this post feels weird to me tbh, feels like they’re getting aheads of themselves

[quote=“Kanave, post:916, topic:2676, full:true”]
off the top of my head the people I liked reading the thread were Jaiden and Mistyx; Jaidens posts

@Jaiden

this makes me mad because you are scumreading me for the wrong reasons

just read towny, I don’t kow why you post this as scum because it’d look so incredibly desperate, it def reads like a towny who’s annoyed rather than a genuine “defense”

@Jaiden

this is not scum motivated it is DUMMY motivated

like who tf says that as wolf

as for mistyx their reads have been passive and don’t feel agenda-y

for scum reads I didnt like Magnuses posts early on in the day and tbh they haven’t done anything to really reverse my thoughts there?

@Magnus

@May

Leafia’s posts seem strange to me, though I am not experienced in the art of Poasting around here. It feels like it’s intended to throw confusion around - this post I’m replying to creates a weird connection that could mess up anyone retroactively analyzing their behavior after an evil flip. VOTE: Leafia
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Voting Leafia due to her “claiming” wolf. I played a game where a Mafia member claimed as such and everyone just assumed “a wolf wouldn’t claim wolf” and let them live, so I can’t disagree with May’s vote here.

like this does not read as genuine, it feels very “Agreeing with this bc its helpful” rather than a genuine push, lik yeah wolves claim wolf sometimes but that on its own itsn’t a great reason to vote. I also just like, don’t think that was really may’s point there? They’re saying that they’re trying to make analysis hard it isn’t inheriently bc they’re claiming wolf. I don’t really like May’s vote there and I don’t really like this defense of it

@Magnus

In favour for a plan which Kanave thinks would result in town executions.

yeah i literally explained tha I think us backpedaling (or not) d2 is going to be the most helpful part, and that it doesn’t decrease our odds of hitting wolf d1 anyways

Eh reading the iso though I dont hate most of the rest of their posts
Let me iso the top wagons

@Kanave

Wow pidgeon has a whole lot of nothing :/

@Kanave

Idk for the “Not having much to say” abot Pidgeon i just like… kinda dont???

@thepigeonnyc

I mean, I don’t know what to do about it

I’ve said my opinions, although in really awkward ways, and there’s no way to turn back time and change what I said

@thepigeonnyc

Hmmm

I don’t want to pre-flip people so quickly
Even if one dies today and the other dies tomorrow, we have until D3 to decide

@thepigeonnyc

I think it’s led by town but may have scum

Like i like the second post but its not neccesarly towny and I don’t like the other two here, just quoting a few from their iso. I don’t think they’ve done too much that stands out so i’m not really opposed to hanging them but I wouldn’t lead a push or anything (not that i’d need to given the current states of votes but ya know)

Day 2

@Kanave

Why is Jaiden getting a pass here? they haven’t really done much this game, and today hae done almost literally nothing

@Kanave

@Achromatic

liked you enough to lie for you yohoho

wha

Overall… i wish i had more to say tbh kinda lost aaaaaaaa

Looking through magnuses stuff again today, I dont find any of it towny really? but I cant outright say any of it is scummy, but not finding it towny is worse than most other players

@Achromatic

lmao this is such a bad question x)

while you’re here saw this in the iso, what did you mean by this>

@Kanave

imma just do some more isos se if that gets me anywhere

@Kanave

I dont think the Eliza pressure is useless, but you also gotta give her time to make her posts, you cant just say “iso someone” and then keep sending messages that prompt a reply and then wonder why they aren’t isoing

@Kanave

idk shooting Achro feels like its prolly unlikely to hit a wolf, but gmaesaving if it does

@Kanave

@Achromatic

Magnus has consistently been a wagon since basically the jump. Given just how many different people have poked him it FEELS unlikely to be a wolf tbh. This doesn’t account for the epitau flash but given my feelings on Magnus/May/Epitau atm it doesn’t feel like, unless a wagon snuck in there somewhere, like wolves would have had a major reason to pile onto Pigeon.

I can see this tbh,
voting Eliza is L-1 Though

@Kanave

this is how eliza plays as both alignments tbf, not playing

@Kanave

tbf she also played like that my last wolf game with her lmao

Day 3

@Kanave

ill be honest i’ve lost hte narative, im just responding to things as they happen and trying to be helpful despite not really remembering how ive felt more this game. Off the top of my head I felt weird about magnus for a while, and honestly not the hugest fan of zorvo even though most people think they’re towny, but i’d have to do more reareading to make a full readlist

Day 4?

@Kanave

Also, even with the town flip i still stand by that if we’re going off Epi’s earlier posts, there wasn’t really anything good there. I get it if people didn’t want to exe there bc we’d just retunnel into pidgeon but I dont think there was anything to TR them on when the wagon started

@Kanave

@PoisonedSquid

The fact that Magnus has tunneled the absolute crap out of you since god knows how long

Decided to check this

@Magnus

Am I the only one who finds “doesn’t have any suspects” strange from Kanave’s perspective?

literally started pushing me the post after i first put some sus on them lmao

@Kanave

More so that Mist is now proven scum but Jaiden seems to be everyone’s concensus scum and I just kinda look back and see someone not really contributing to the gamestate and how the fuck did I town read her???

@Kanave

@Leafia

Magnus

Is Magnus Concensou town core? or is he just in your towncore

@Kanave

@Jaiden

if I’m scum why in the hell would I be going for the “obvtown”

desperation

@Kanave

Wait So Leafia you think Me/Jaiden just wins?

@Kanave

@Magnus

Hey Kanave, why did you give us permission to vote you after Mist was shot? Neither as Town nor Mafia would you want to die right now, this close to the end of the game.

That wasn’t literal lmao. Like sure I wouldn’t have been upset if i was wagoned after that but that sure as hell wasn’t me genuinely advocating for it

@Kanave

as the day goes on im getting more confident Magnus/Jaide just wins the game tbh

@Kanave

@Magnus

Jaiden’s exed today, almost definitely flips Mafia. Kanave will argue about exing me, and there might be enough doubt to have me get exed and waste a day.

as opposed to the alternative, where we dont flip Jaiden today and instead that arguing happens now??

@Kanave

@Magnus

Say your salespitch now if you have one.

The way you’ve been approaching this day is super wolfy, like trying to push for us not to kill the person you think is def a wolf is weird, and i think its because you’re looking for a way to win as maf rather than town

@Kanave

@Magnus

If you were Town, you would’ve already known I’m necessarily Mafia and presumably be calling for my blood as well. You wouldn’t even need a safety net.

Town doesn’t know that. I’m not assuming I’m gonna live here, I’ve had pretty bad reads most this game

@Kanave

@Magnus

But you would know that, and you should therefore try to convince Town of that. Regardless of your alignment, that’s what you should be arguing here.

I am literally arguing to kill you! Im just also arguing we kill Jaiden because they’re the most likely wolf on the table, me wanting to kill jaiden doesn’t mean I dont want you dead too. I think the team is you+Jaiden at this point

@Kanave

if we get it wrong though, we’re entering Lylo needing to hit 2 kills in a row, and its not like we have 100% certainty, how many games have you seen where town says “we’ll kill em tomorrow” and never gets to it

@Kanave

This is kinda what im refering to, like sure I’ve suggested that we kill magnus before jaiden here, but that concern was about Jaiden flipping town (prolly Squid Magnus at this point) and yet Magnus has been pushing to flip me first despite Jaiden always being a wolf in their worlds

@Magnus

Jaiden: Executed, Flips Maf. 6 players left.

Uhh… I dunno, Achro/Leafia killed probably. 5 players left.
Worst case scenario to keep the simulation running, V!Magnus executed. 4 players left.
Maybe Zorvo after that? 3 players left.
And then… okay, I guess I can turn my brain off if that’s that simple.

This is what you’ve been arguing against all day >.>

@Kanave

I think in a town!Kana World the wolves wincon is to vote me

@Kanave

Same thing if I flip town for you, in town!Magnus worlds me being town is probably just a loss and there’s very little we can do to avoid that, so im just not going to play towards those worlds, ignoring them gives a higher winrate

@Kanave

@Magnus

If they flip Town, the whole situation arises which I will try to explain more in-depth later.

if they flip imo we just kill the other, i think we just accept t/t worlds for you and i as a loss and move on bc we lose too much ev in w/v worlds by considering it

@Kanave

@Magnus

So let’s talk about this. In Town!Suspect!Kanave worlds, this post seems to suggest an inclination towards surrender, not actual surrender, but would Kanave actually be willing to fight tooth and nail, as hard as Wolf!Suspect!Kanave presumably would?

okay rereading this block I think your misunderstanding something. I’m not saying I wouldn’t fight, obviously I’d still try but i’d be trying witht he knowledge that its probably hopeless. The thing im doing more when throwing out those worlds, is not even giving them the thought that they seem to be taking up today. I dont want to spend basically any of today talking about V/V you and I worlds because I think they’re very unlikely. I don’t like how much you’re dwelling on unlikely worldviews

Day 5

@Kanave

Alright time to play “Find the Deepwolf”!
But before that, i honestly just want to thunderdome Magnus and I today, even if yall dont want us to instacrossvote.

@Kanave

@Achromatic

That confident Magnus is a wolf?

Im atleast confident im never going to get out of this tunnel even if they arent

@Kanave

@Magnus

In hindsight, that would’ve been the worst timing. If a townie was executed between us, and Jaiden went today, we would’ve just lost.

@Magnus

This is literally what I suggested yesterday.

I dont see how town!Magnus can have both these ideas at the same time

@Kanave

also actually I kidna disagree. Wolves are going to likely kill into one of you three tonight, if we’re def hitting into Myself/Magnus we actually might not want to disscuss the other 3 to give the wolves less info on who to shoot; unless you think thats relevant as to who we exe between us two

@Kanave

if the wolves know who we’re leaning towards hitting tomorrow, they know which person is the best night kill. if we just talk about magnus and I today we deprive them of that info. ofc if we hit the townie we lose the game anyways, so we just assume we hit the wolf when planning ahead

There, I think that should be some good posts to look through

[Geyde]

Morbcount

Not Morbing (5): Achromatic, Leafia, Magnus, Poisonedsquid, Kanave

[Achromatic]

Going to assume magnus and kanave are super swamped with bad timing but it sucks not having them be more around.

[Leafia]

True. It sucks not having it be a bit more active as well.