I agree. This lylo is far too silent for my tastes too and if it continues, the wolves will very likely win here.
Assuming a wolf is axed today, Mafiaās likeliest to kill you imo, unless they change their mind about Achro right now. In that case, you should probably share your thoughts today as much as possible.
Yeah, I think youāre right about that.
Iāll shate how I feel about everyone right now.
Leafia: Top town. Never a wolf.
Achro: 98% chance at being town. Heās been villagery the entire game, but I canāt get that voice out of my head telling me he must be a wolf pocketing me. I donāt think itāll disappear completely until either he dies or the game ends, whichever comes first.
Squid: 65% chance at being town. Up until todaybI didnāt really take much notice of her that I can recall, but sheās been extremely villagery today and hasnāt seemed agenday at all.
Kanave: 50% chance at being town: Mostly because of Zorvoās read even if I donāt think sheās been that villagery, but she does have villagery moments.
Magnus: 40% chance of being town. Mostly due to him being the scummiest looking player alive, even if he has had his villagery moments. I donāt think heās been nearly as scummy as Zorvo thought he has been, but itās possible that Zorvo was onto something and Magnus beinh a wolf would explain his death.
You remember how Zorvo wanted us to leave Kanave alone today and go for either Squid or myself, right?
Indeed I do.
Anyway,about time I called ot a night now, so good night.
Reading over the day and reflecting on things I am currently leaning towards Magnus. Of the explanations offered for why Zorvo was killed I have been able to swallow his the least in this scenario. In additional to this, I have been aware for a long time that Magnus is a good player who has throughout the game pinged me on several occasions.
But itās also strange because Squid has now been absent for awhile when Magnus stepped up their thread presence. This might just be pure paranoia but it almost feels pre-planned to tag out so the other has more of a spotlight. I felt like Squid had decent presence to start the day and now Magnus has that same presence to end the day.
Going to the way back machine of day 1 both Leafia and Squid were on Magnus and Kanave was on epitau to end the day. Kanave voted really late, Squid and Leafia I think had been on Magnus for awhile.
Thatās ominous. We met for the first time this game, did we not?
I have a reputation for going AFK for a majority of my games, and/or getting misexed in the first two days.
The only way this game continues another day is if one wolf is executed today, this isnāt negotiable. Iām pretty sure that makes today MYLO, not LYLO, but whatever.
Everyone alive has voted me during the game, yeah. Your vote doesnāt really count, since it was there for like, a minute, but the other three have had votes on me for quite a while. I know bussing exists, but thereās also the possibility (nay, the truth) that Iām simply not on their side.
Zorvo wished for us not to vote Kanave at all, and from an outside perspective youād be crazy not to consider Magnus/Squid as a viable world, although from my POV itās either Kanave/Squid or Achroās a deepwolf. Zorvo defended Leafia, so sheās clear either way.
My general argument is that Squidās suspicious regardless of whether Kanave or I are Mafia, so from an outside perspective Squid should probably be axed either way. From my inside POV, I know Iām Town and I almost entirely trust this towncore which means these two need to be evil.
Hence why Iād personally like to vote Squid, whereas Mafia!Magnus would probably be pushing for a Kanave vote for the sake of consistency.
(Is it just me, or are Leafiaās suspects weird? Itās like she thinks Magnus/Kanave is the scumteam, and yet she didnāt disagree with my disagreement with that world when Kanave mentioned it earlierā¦ does that make sense?)
Oh, I just meant since day one I had my head tilted at you at times. I suppose a long time is relative to the context.
I didnāt get the sense at any point that you were likely a person to be misexed I admit. I have liked your style through out the game and thought you to be quite charismatic even as others have made cases against you.
I suppose it is telling that my mind goes to āWolf Magnus voting Squid is probably partneredā so if I looked at isolation of anything else and merely focus on āletās kill a wolf todayā then it would not be the worst idea to vote Squid. I am trying not to give too much of my thoughts away so I can see how people interact but thatās been really limited today. I was hoping the three in my PoE would have discussed things among yourselves more.
Regarding Leafiaās suspects being āweirdā, I feel as if Leafia is parsing you guys almost arbitrarily because its kind of shameful to admit that she doesnāt really know what she wants to do today. I think if one of you had made any effort to really case me hard you could have convinced Leafia to drop me a good 10-30% just based off of that.
In short, I think weird is a valid statement for how Leafia is thinking for most of this game yeah. Iām just grateful that I have experience with her.
I donāt even know what wolf Magnus would be thinking right now. Considering my behaviour in BOTF, Iād probably just ignore it, pretend it doesnāt exist. I dunno.
If I was going to be executed for the sake of info, it wouldāve needed to be earlier. Today, itās probably better to vote the player most likely to flip Mafia, let someone die during the night, and have a 1/3 chance tomorrow.
Hereās what I personally envision seeing:
Squid is executed, flips Mafia.
Wolves murder Leafia.
At that stage Kanaveās going to call for my death, and Iād probably return the favour, and youāll ultimately determine which alignment wins, as either town or Maf yourself.
Alternatively, wolves kill you tonight (in which case, why not do that earlier?), and Leafia decides that crucial junction instead.
I think Leafia dying in that world makes the most sense, as she has negative 4 deep wolf equity. If you are wolf with Squid here this would be your play, I think? Just go hard in the final 5, itās not like anyone is town reading you after Zorvo dies anyway but Zorvo is more likely to just keep tunneling. The problem for wolves is when town tunnels correctly, even for iffy reasons, it presents problems at lylo.
Yeah, a little late to worry about info I admit. I think it has been almost a full day since Squid appeared so thatās fun.
Seeing far into the future, huh Magnus.
By murdering Zorvo Iād lend credence to his words. The best plan of action for maf!Magnus is to keep Zorvo alive, probably kill Leafia instead and just let you manage Zorvo, as youāve been doing most of the game.
Squidās absence doesnāt help her case.
Man, no wonder people think youāre my only possible wolf buddy lol. When you say it like thatā¦
Although I donāt know if I could stop Zorvo from snapvoting you at lylo, and I have doubts W!Magnus banks on that.
This was one of the last things Zorvo said. This shadow of a doubt would turn a mistake into a worthwhile risk, although it only really works if youāre alive. And it only works if I could actually convince you Iām town in worlds where Iām not.
On the other hand, we already know evils have stuck with their basic murders each night, and sparing Zorvo is a risk nonetheless.
Of course, the reason I am alive could be as simple as āAchro has been defending W!Magnus from town members trying to eat him.ā
Thatās a valid interpretation. Mist was āTRingā me, so itās possible in scum!Magnus worlds I was chosen to endgame. After all, I endgamed fairly well in the last wolf game I played in. They certainly didnāt spare you because you were on the wrong track, since you got Mist out. You also helped get out Epitau, Eliza and Jaiden, but they couldnāt have known that all in advance.
Letās look at the dead to figure this out. Apo makes sense as a first night kill, and May was killed because she was townread. Min was confirmed, and Zorvo was as good as.
We could discern that thereās also the possibility that wolves have left you alive because of the paranoid people like Leafia had about your continued existence. That leans into WIFOM, but there is a precedent on this site. And since Iām Town, I canāt know the exact explanation.
A big reason why I wanted more out of everyone today was so there would be a very clear path tomorrow if I died tonight. I cannot imagine a more painful experience than being killed before F3 and knowing who the final wolf is and having them and the other townās arbiter of justice beā¦ Leafia.
Leafia arbitrarily decided Kanave was more trustworthy than I was, so at least in wolf!Magnus worlds Iām motivated not to kill her tonight. Hint, hint Mafia.
Oh well. I never expected to reach this point of the game, if Iām being earnest. As soon as I saw Pigeon flip town, I assumed I was going to be the main wagon of D2, hence why I wrote that whole wallpost in advance.
This is either a triumph of my reading ability or really awkward post game lol.