GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

I dunno, instinct in me tellsmenot to flip Eliza today and I’m not sure why. I’ll look like the clown of the cricus if she’s scum,since that would mean I’ve been wrong about our final execution literally every single day, but I dont. Scumread her. I went back and scanned YBW’s post which does convince me a bit so I’m not *opposed8 to kill her today, but it doesnt feel correct to me. I should head to bed as well.

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damn i should’ve just ghosted for the day

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.-.

at least we can stop arguing about zorvo

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@BradLand do you think you can explain why illwei is town

their slot is the last slot left to me that doesn’t have something at least mildly towny about them, and i was otherwise probably gonna vote them or just sheep someone, because i don’t really have any confidence i can find a wolf

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Illwei would be a lot less into the game if she was a wolf at this point, she’s actually pushing a particular thing she believes in, rather than just floating around during the game or even low posting.

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i feel like both illwei and eliza should die

I’m busy today so I can’t post as much but I think YBW’s Eliza case is good and I think the Eliza and illwei defenses have been pretty weak

zorvo dies tonight unless he’s counterclaimed

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actually let me clarify
if one flips wolf I wouldn’t immediately turbo the other before reading for spew and stuff

but I think there are 1+ wolves between them
personally I’m actually leaning illwei so I’ll be staying on the wagon but I’m not opposed to Eliza either

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Im fine with this, I do think illwei has been scummy too so Im ok with an exe their direction as well, as Ive said before though I still would prefer Eliza

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Isn’t it funny how games go sometimes? Voting back to back with someone you cased a mere day before?
Anything I could say has already been said.
VOTE: Eliza.

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I also dont get what mays doing rn, we are never killing KT here. We kill between illwei/Eliza literally always, killing KT gains us nothing unless hes mafia which i see very unlikely at this point in the game. Its possible I may need to re eval later on but we arent killing him today, nor are we killing vulgard, brad, etc etc. Also what was the point about killing the stronger wolf first? That makes litealy no sense, you kill the people who actually have possibility to flip wolf first

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Well played, glad I played, Hana Ichi Monme. Point trade, card trade? Didn’t see one, gotta say.

If Eliza flips Green, I’m under the impression that means Town has no idea who’s evil, so everyone oughta reanalyse anyway tomorrow. May should be alive, so the KT case most certainly will be prevalent if Eliza flips green, and if Eliza flips wolf — okay, who cares then? We killed an evil, one left.

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I can agree with that, I just dont see why theyre trying to kill KT now instead of like tomorrow? And the case only really works if Eliza flips green which suprise suprise I do not think will happen

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May’s probably more confident in a w!KT flip than a w!Eliza flip, if I had to guess, in which case fair enough? You can’t expect everyone to vote when they disagree with the direction of the wagon.

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Eh, I guess I just kinda fundamentally disagree with that line of thinking.

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It is really dependant on Eliza’s flip.
If Eliza flips wolf, May might be a wolf
If Eliza flips town, I’m inclined to trust May on King.

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I don’t really think you needed to claim aloud, if I’m being honest. Yes, it gave you immediate authority, but you also put an immediate target on your back. Neither YBW or I were wagons today, and (as has been pointed out), neither of us are even mechcleared. So I’m wondering why you would’ve done it?

You probably weren’t in danger of being nightkilled.

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Vulgard always kills me if they are wolves with Eliza

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I do think zorvo was a potential NK so I kinda get it but I dont think he was super likely to die at night. It was a fair possiblity though so I get his position

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ElizaThePsycho (3): YoubutWorse, Zorvo, Magnus
Zorvo (1): Illwei
Illwei (1): Vulgard
Magnus (1): BradLand
KingTroll (1): May

Not Voting (4): ElizaThePsycho, Lemonfairy, mollylikesorigami, KingTroll

Day ends 2022-09-28T22:00:00Z

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I don’t believe it’s inconceivable for Eliza to flip Town, but fifteen hours have passed since this exchange and it feels like if Eliza truly believed her death wasn’t ideal for Town, she would’ve been fighting tooth and nail instead of making one-liners before her disappearance. (I’m not going to say it’s strange she’s been gone that long, people have lives, but the content while she was here is strange.)

If Marl’s death was required (I disagree on that front, but you do you), I think yours might be, as well. At the very least, drawing on relevant quotes to support why you’re townier than Illwei would be better.
Right now, your behaviour matches the construct of an evil in my head, someone who wants to survive but doesn’t especially care who else dies in turn, someone who can’t find numerous scumreads because because villagers act villagery, and accusing Illwei is an easy way out.

There are good points to your ISO, I’m aware of that front. But you aren’t even voting anyone, and you’re on the chopping block, so how can you say there’s someone else you scumread all that much more? But it’s alright, you don’t need to convince me. I’ll (likely?) be asleep long before EOD, but if you’re looking to convince other people I would start with May, since she seems to townlean you, or at the very least he’d prefer to vote KT out instead. Try your best to dig around, find whatever cracks you can, stay alive, and if you’re flipped wolf we can use those interactions to read you posthumously. Either way, it should be in your favour. Good luck.

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