you or brad imo. vulgard is a potential but i trust marl’s townread on them
And why does lol die
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i do not know
Was it just bevause he was super townread
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Because if so then that implies to me that the wolves werre in no real danger by any specofic person
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For whatever reason
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Like if eliza was a wolf and killed vulgard then the general vibe would be that vulgard died because he is a generally strong player
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Vulgard also stopped pushing on Eliza today despite him being on her wagon yesterday, counter to marl
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My vote would be on her right now if it wasn’t the hammering vote.
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it wouldn’t have been the hammering vote had you voted any other time in the cycle
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I think there were only like… two people who strongly townread lol and one of them was me? I don’t think that was the reason.
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True, that’s a skill issue on my part if she’s a wolf.
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i have concluded that brad is town
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Tbf, I just wanted both of you to get wagoned, because I felt there was a wolf between you and I wanted to see what would happen. Similarly, I was okay with giving Marl his desired kill in Silviu d1, because he could’ve been right - and I didn’t feel like I was losing anything, because O. kazo would definitely not endgame, especially if I were killed to prevent me from pushing there. I ended up pushing on O. kazo anyway because people were more willing to listen to me over Marl, but I can’t say I ever abandoned Marl’s read.
Until you started posting ~30 minutes ago, I’d still say I want to vote for you over Eliza, but you’ve been posting decently and Eliza essentially gave up. I don’t want to CFD into Magnus (rich coming from me, but I don’t actually think it’s a good idea right now), and I don’t want to kill you over Eliza at this point.
Right now, I’m actually thinking about May, because I haven’t liked their posts today at all. I also think the KT paranoia is unwarranted, and I genuinely believe that wolf!Brad would completely give up on the game from the start. Just look at his game with me I linked earlier; he was barely capable of posting there, and him being wolf here would deflate him even harder, I think.
I completely get the paranoia, to be honest, but I’d rather see Eliza’s flip before re-examining. If she’s mafia, I’d say her most likely partner is Lemon because of Lemon’s hard defense of the slot. You could argue that Lemon wouldn’t tie herself so hard to her partner and that she would just bus, but with just her alive and the JOAT unclaimed (and hidden decently enough for wolves to miss night 2, yes I do think that must’ve been an attempted PR hunt) she’d probably want to keep her partner alive as long as possible.
If Eliza’s town, then I actually think Lemonfairy is more likely town for that defense, because I don’t see her bending over backwards to prevent that ML from happening. I think that YBW is town regardless of Eliza’s flip, because her casing of Eliza was towny and I don’t think she’s capable of pushing misyeets this aggressively as mafia. I’ve also reconsidered Molly, and I think she’s town again; my argument at SoD was pretty weak, and I haven’t found any other reason to wolfread her.
I keep flip-flopping on Magnus, but with YBW becoming super likely town to me, he naturally falls into the “I’d probably kill this but I’m not even sure what it flips” zone. I’d probably still kill Illwei if Eliza flips V, and then re-evaluate if that flips town as well? We do have three MLs until LyLo.
I fully admit that KT could potentially be in my blind spot, I’ve just read his ISO and I really struggle to see this come from a wolf. Then again, he did say he was universally townread as a wolf before, so maybe I’m giving his wolfgame too little credit?
Cliffs:
If Eliza W → Lemon probably W
If Eliza V → Lemon probably V
Molly, YBW, Zorvo, Brad V no matter what
KT probably V
Reconsider May
Evaluate Magnus (I really don’t know what to think about his slot anymore)
I’d probably kill Illwei tomorrow if Eliza flips V, but make sure not to sleepwalk into it. I think Illwei’s EoD is much better than Eliza’s and that’s why I want to kill Eliza over Illwei.
If Eliza is W, then I would kill Lemon.
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I’m at YBW, Brad v
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I’m personally okay with hammering this unless you have anything to post before end of day.
Also, if Zorvo doesn’t die for some reason, don’t suddenly start pushing him. He’s been towny on play for the entire game and he is an un-CC’d JOAT. Him surviving doesn’t make him a wolf. I don’t think you would actually get this idea, but I just want to prevent it in case it does spawn in some people’s minds.
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My problem is I just don’t see him like, doing anything.
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He did a little EoD trolling alongside May, which is probably worth looking into if we’re actually losing badly and we don’t see it.
today? no i haven’t done much all of my pushes have gone onto town and i’ve regretted yesterday’s lynch enough to punch my wim down. i have done a bunch of things this game though