GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[Lemonfairy]

@YoubutWorse does this look like an accurate representation of your reads?

Magnus
molly

Vul
KT

Illwei

Lemon
Brad

May

[Host_Account_1]

KingTroll (2): May, BradLand
BradLand (2): KingTroll, Illwei
Vulgard (1): Magnus
mollylikesorigami (1): Vulgard
May (1): mollylikesorigami

Not Voting (2): Lemonfairy, YoubutWorse

Day ends 2022-10-01T22:00:00Z

[Lemonfairy]

wow that timing
ignore my last post

[YoubutWorse]

Switch magnus and molly with Vul and Kt, then switch illwei and molly, then move urself up a spot

[YoubutWorse]

we keep posting at the same time lmao

[Lemonfairy]

@KingTroll
@Magnus
@BradLand
@May

sorry for ping
can I has readlists pls?

[Lemonfairy]

omg I’m so cringe

[Lemonfairy]

idek what my readlist would be

Vul/YBW
molly/Brad
KT?
Illwei/May
Magnus?

[Lemonfairy]

@Magnus

I feel like there’s an evil between YBW and KT, partially due to their pocketing exchange earlier. I don’t think Vulgard’s a wolf. We don’t have the evidence to entirely know whether Illwei’s good or not. Cases can be made for Brad or Lemon being good or evil. People are voting Molly on suspicion of stagnant reads(?). May’s leading the charge.

Magnus, would this be an accurate representation of your reads?

Vulgard
May

Illwei
Brad
Lemon
molly

YBW
KT

[YoubutWorse]

This is a compleet stagnant EoD
Is anyone else here or

[YoubutWorse]

Ik we still got another hour but still

[YoubutWorse]

Since May has only 1 vote rn (and im assuming no one else is gonna show up bc it lowkey looks like that rn) Ill probably end up on brad by end of day? I dont want a rand so that seems like the best option, plus I am not at all opposed to a brad flip

[YoubutWorse]

Theres not a ton of difference between may and brad for me anyway, may just more so trended downwards more for me compared to Brad. Everyone honestly has good reasons to TR them so its hard to pick out specific people

[May]

Hi, I’m finally here, though I’ve got to do a Mariners documentary marathon tonight to celebrate them making the playoffs, I can probably play mafia at the same time (though I bet my friends will be annoyed at me for tabbing off the stream).

My immediate instinct is that Brad is almost certainly town and we should not flip him today. My immediate instincts are often wrong. A lot of that comes from the meta a lot of other people mentioned - that he’s usually a very obvious wolf - but I’m going to look through his posts as well to see if it’s justified.

@BradLand

Town:
May
Marl
Zorvo

A weird list for me…something feels off.

Town:
May
Marl
Zorvo
Eliza

That’s better.

First thing to note is that he listed four townies here if he’s a wolf. That’d be interesting. I’ll go through and look at the rest, though.

[May]

@BradLand

@YoubutWorse

So you put eliza on there, seemingly on a weird whim. I question you about it and you provide reasoning for everyone but Eliza. Bradland, when you get the chance, could you explain your read on Eliza? I don’t really townread her at all and was wondering why you did esp since you never really explained it.

That part was a joke. If you need explanation for the joke I would ask…

@BradLand

@YoubutWorse

So you put eliza on there, seemingly on a weird whim. I question you about it and you provide reasoning for everyone but Eliza. Bradland, when you get the chance, could you explain your read on Eliza? I don’t really townread her at all and was wondering why you did esp since you never really explained it.

That part was a joke. If you need explanation for the joke I would ask…

Checks list

Well…Marl might be the only one who knows this meme but he scumreads me so I might not get help there.

Checks list

Well…Marl might be the only one who knows this meme but he scumreads me so I might not get help there.

Not sure if this interaction is W/W? Maybe it could be. I’ll look at those two in more detail shortly.

@BradLand

Trying to figure out Magnus and iso’d him because I remember his initial casing, or like dive into, of Vulgard he did start to tunnel into him, but then had a moment of seeing a positive note when he asked me about my joke reads, then proceeded to hard tunnel him immediately after.

Instead of just hard tunneling him from the word “go” he did seem to have a moment of leeway. Like I might need to see where he goes with this Vulgard read and I need to see his answer to my question about Lemon that I asked a bit ago but I might just lean the guy town for now.

@BradLand

Okay well I just iso’d Lemon after asking that question and noting that she has quite a lot of posts that I probably just skimmed past without reading.

But it’s pretty good, her catch up wall is a good post in terms of the fact that they seem to be freeflow takes even if they’re basic.

So giving a townread there.

This is the lowest-effort of his townreads, I suppose Lemon’s someone to look at in the unlikely event that Brad flips W?

@BradLand

What have you read? Feels like you’re just here making soapbox statements.

Could be W/W

@BradLand

That…defense from Troll might be towny.

Seeing random stuff like explaining the “interesting” post as a self reminder if he searches himself Ew and spots that for future reference sounds like a town mindset, although it’s just a theory post, revealing it is a nice thing to have.
Also the clearing as to why he’s not stating his townreads or why mine was cringe is good as well.

Would like to see what his solving looks like whenever he gets around to it, but for now for his defense I will put a townlean on him.

@BradLand

Townread:
Marl
KingTroll
May
Lemonfairy

Townlean:
Molly
Zorvo
Magnus
Min

How I’m looking at the game currently.

Ugh. Listen, I can make basic equity assessments here because I can do it on anyone, but I really don’t think this is wolfy! It’s very solvy! I don’t really have a good assessment as to where he’d place a wolf in here if he were one, or whether he’d do it at all.

@BradLand

God this is kind of rough because iso’ing both Silviu and Kazo it’s like…

Kazo hasn’t done much and has paid attention to either wanting to know why he’s being wagoned, and has had a stagnant scumread on Vulgard majority of the game and not much else in terms of reads that I’m spotting? So just a narrow focus the entire game.

Silviu has been focusing on making “This is what you need to do to be better” posts towards Eliza and Seth, then kept harping on past games or talking about what went wrong in them, he’s been asked questions and hasn’t responded, granted he did talk about being busy at school and on the phone so maybe excusable. However his only townread is Marl, and this is done after having a reads list that felt like he was…I can’t think of the word I would want to use here…but he basically didn’t want to have those townreads.

Like both haven’t given me enough to want to save either of them. Wagons should stay on the both of them.

If this is W/W with Silviu/illwei, it’s very bussy. I think it’s also not W/W with Vulgard?

@BradLand

I feel like if Marl manages to go over, and if he flips wolf, the wagon currently:

@Host_Account_1

Marluxion (3): KingTroll, May, YoubutWorse

Probably pure?

Noting this is completely unnecessary for a wolf to do

@BradLand

There’s no consideration that the wagons could be W/W here? Do you specifically read Silviu as town?

Mmmm

@BradLand

@min

legacy before work

poe: eliza/magnus

poe but unconfident; okazo

maybe poe: marl lemon vulgard

maybe maybe poe: lol

never execute: king

idk: everyone else

at least 1 in marl/magnus/vulgard using genuine poe

bye

Confusing legacy actually.

And he ended with his vote on Magnus.

But I feel like Magnus is towny…

Am I doing something wrong?

Could be W/W with Magnus

@BradLand

VOTE: Silviu

I’m sticking to my Day 1 read for now.

This maintains the Silviu wagon into the next day, something I’m not sure someone would do to their wolfbuddy - not only does it, well, make a wagon on your partner, it makes you feel very focused on them in a way that draws attention to the two of you.

@BradLand

If anyone’s questioning it I’m pocketing Illwei.

These interactions are putting my brain on the fucking merrygoround but my chart is in pen and I’ve already scribbled out the Brad/Silviu box, so not W/W it is

@BradLand

VOTE: Marluxion

Only because you told me to…

Not W/W

Okay I got bored. Brad isn’t a wolf probably, but if he is, maybe Magnus is a partner? I dunno, though, maintaining that suspicion throughout the days isn’t super partnery behavior. KT isn’t an impossible partner from my read of Brad’s side, but I think I recall seeing something unpartnered from KT’s side? I dunno. I also don’t know how tod o those details collapse things so you’re all seeing my wallpost

[Host_Account_1]

KingTroll (2): May, BradLand
BradLand (2): KingTroll, Illwei
Vulgard (1): Magnus
mollylikesorigami (1): Vulgard
May (1): mollylikesorigami

Not Voting (2): Lemonfairy, YoubutWorse

Day ends 2022-10-01T22:00:00Z

[May]

Anyway hi YBW Brad’s not a fuckin wolf IMO and I’m happy to work with you to flip essentially anyone else (besides myself)

[Illwei]

you have no conclusion whatsoever on me?

[Illwei]

I think you’re village but I don’t understand how a villager can have 0 paranoia on KT or Vul. the team just can’t be may/brad not because they’re unpartnered but just because like…idk. it can’t be. they both weren’t here for days and yet somehow we killed Marl and then Eliza so

[Illwei]

@May

to celebrate them making the playoffs

I was just talking about this with my dad on the drive home but like then i kept asking him questions about how they did because i have so little info as someone who doesn’t follow sports and he was like “idk i don’t follow sports” and i was like well if you can’t talk to me about it why did you bring it up but it’s because we were passing the stadium probably