GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[KingTroll]

@lol

yeah idk why you did that

it was funny and I hadn’t talked to you before then afaik

[lol]

silviu(illwei)/marl has atleast one wolf imo

marl already has a wagon but it will probably disperse soon so silviu imo should be the kill of today
idk what YBW did thats incriminating but magnus seems towny from the case
king troll town zorvo town vulgard towny eliza towny lemon null may null molly null

[lol]

idk why magnus is the wagon at all dude is pogged up

[lol]

ftr marl is completely out of it idk what hes doing but hes stinking today
bury a wolf or something ur just flailing and shitting ur pants over pointless nonsense

town marl would have death tunneled someone already this guy is the walmart version arguing whether okazo was a coinflip or not

zorvo can be ignored he is just 1 guy

[lol]

could be the almost hammered brain speaking but idk feels sus

[Host_Account_1]

Marluxion (4): ElizaThePsycho, Zorvo, Lemonfairy, lol
Magnus (2): Vulgard, KingTroll
YoubutWorse (2): Magnus, Marluxion

Not Voting (5): mollylikesorigami, illwei, May, BradLand, YoubutWorse

[May]

Hi everyone I have five minutes to play the game before I have to go do something else. Marl I read your response to me and it contains nothing at all of substance so no I’m not responding to it.

Still think the move that wolves pull on Zorvo correctly guessing their LHF teammate D2 would be to 1. not respond directly to the actual accusation, be all “coinflip but Silviu’s wolfier” and 2. try to discredit Zorvo as a person and discourage people from listening to him. Which is exactly what you did. So.

Now that we’re not on L-1, I’ll go back to VOTE: Marl, but you all better not hammer him I hate hammers they lost us Flicker

People who aren’t Marl, what are your thoughts on his potential teammates? This game’s in a bit of an awkward position with how like… I know the majority of people are town, but I’m having trouble convincing myself to trust people. Maybe I should change that.

If Marl’s wolf, I think Zorvo’s almost certainly town, KT and Molly are probably town, andddd now I have to go oops bye everyon

[Zorvo]

@Marluxion

(this is not me trying to discredit you it’s just what popped into my head and i thought it was funny )

Idk man I think you will.
Your good at it!

@Marluxion

Eliza/May/Lemon/YBW should contain one at least

If you aren’t a wolf and my Lol/Vulgard partner compatibility is incorrect then yeah I’d say Eliza/May/YBW seems about right.
But not Lemon, Lemon is Town.

[Zorvo]

@Marluxion

Even if people think I’m a wolf why didn’t he just vote Silviu

Why didn’t they vote you?
They voted an off wagon.

Logically the thing that makes the most sense from what you are saying is:

@Zorvo

I can also see O.Kazo being That wolf that decides to vote their wolf buddy almost the entire day phase. (Vulgard)

[Zorvo]

Although probably O.Kazo was just doing whatever and not caring, probably in anti-spew.

@lol

@Marluxion

I’m as obvious town as I’ve ever been

stop the cap you’re null as shit you always play like this

@lol

ftr marl is completely out of it idk what hes doing but hes stinking today
bury a wolf or something ur just flailing and shitting ur pants over pointless nonsense

town marl would have death tunneled someone already this guy is the walmart version arguing whether okazo was a coinflip or not

If your trying to make me think you/Marlu aren’t partnered from them flipping wolf.

(Well good job cause I probably won’t be voting for you but if your still alive when numbers decrease and we haven’t found the last wolf my eyes Will be back on you, although you would probably have killed me by then.)

[Lemonfairy]

once again attempting to catch up when I think I never will

[Lemonfairy]

my posts are only just reminders of my existence now

[Illwei]

Guys i dont think ybw is a wolf

[KingTroll]

@YoubutWorse

@Magnus

I don’t like questions, because they put the pressure on other people to explain themselves while leaving yourself unscathed and looking good because, hey, you’re engaging in the thread.

they ASKED PEOPLE to ask them questions WHAT

@KingTroll

oh this will only be my twentieth post. ama I can go full wild

@YoubutWorse

@KingTroll

oh right i need to actively make reads and interact with people i can’t just say ‘ama’ when there’s nothing to ask me about. going to roll a 14 sided die and make a read on someone here give me a half hour

where tf u getting a 14 sided die from
I actually do have a question I wanted to ask people to see if it gives me any good info
Assuming you are a town, if you were a wolf right now, what would be the main noticeable differences between wolf you and town you?

oh right yeah lmao. completely forgot that point but i did literally say ‘ama’ and they responded so that’s not a scumtell at worse it’s nai

[Magnus]

@Vulgard

i mostly want to kill magnus, lemon and silviu are also ok options but they’re much cloesr to a shrug for me
idk what to do with lol (there were apparently some arguments for him being spewed town but i don’t think eliza has explained them?)
kt zorvo marl may molly probably all town
ybw i think town

i guess brad also exists
i think he’s ~fine

and idk how to read eliza

If I was killed and flipped Town, who would you look at afterward? You only seem to have one scumread.

@YoubutWorse

How do you townread marl
How do you scumread me
Why is kingtroll only a slight townlean? Man is the towniest town since it got established

I townread Marl because he was actually doing stuff all of the first day, branding players with reads quickly and consistently:

@Marluxion

Vulgard is v

@Marluxion

Don’t care for worse or brad, either or both could be hits

May also just immediately obvious v from that last post

@Marluxion

Vulgards brain is following a natural village course so far this game

Not really a progression read but like
Idk how else to describe it

@Marluxion

Kingtroll and Eliza have liked every single one of my posts this game but neither have said a single word to me and it’s making me paranoid

@Marluxion

@Zorvo

I wanna say this ain’t W/W.

Don’t like how easily this was given by Seth

@Marluxion

@Vulgard

Marl has two wolfreads but he isn’t outing them.

Brad and to a lesser extent Silviu

@Marluxion

this part is what pinged me mostly
there is a lot of assuming happening here and very little actual deduction
it’s like it’s assuming he’s town and trying to explain his behavior that way

Etcetera. Whether or not I agree with the reads personally, or whether it’s Marl being Marl, I tend to see “multiple reads + decent analysis” as “towny”.

@Marluxion

Marl
Vulgard
May

Magnus
Eliza
Lol

Zorvo

Molly
Kingtroll
Lemon

O.kazo
min
YBW
Silviu

BradLand

@Marluxion

Like this
Zorvo voting okazo

Okazo could realistically be a lhf villager and zorvo is trying to start a counterwagon because one of his wolfmates are being wagoned

We don’t really have a way to know or not until flips occur

I don’t think this necessarily points to Marl and O.kazo being partnered; it’s a possibility, but it isn’t convincing.

The wagon on Marl formed way too quickly if it’s pure, in my humble opinion.
Basically, I expect Marl is Town.
I think you’re evil, and I’m trying to contextualise your behaviour in a way that supports it. If you disagree with that idea, just know that it’s what you’re all doing for Marl rn.
This is my readlist, not yours. Kingtroll’s in townlean because I haven’t played with him, and for all I know you’re getting duped.

@YoubutWorse

it was a joke wallpost that I wrote bc I was bored in class
it doesnt make me look towny, its (as many have stated) almost completely NAI
what

I’ve shared my thoughts on this, and we’d need to agree to disagree. Since it’s your wallpost, though, anything you say can and will be used against you in court.

@YoubutWorse

literally includes quotes of me trying and succesfully reading other players in the evidence section of how I didnt
10/10

My bad, you’re just vibe reading people. You’re equating “I like these people’s posts” with “probably good”, without providing any reasoning. Or analysis, if you’d prefer.

@YoubutWorse

I understood that part of the post as “Your number 1 goal as a wolf is to look like town.” which isn’t true (or at least isnt what mafia players better than me have said) The number 1 goal as a wolf is to win, and you accomplish this partly by not looking hella sus but if your only goal is to look towny, thats not gonna work out bc eventually you will slip up bc u arent town and you have TMI.

…My mind hasn’t been changed. You look good in order to win, you don’t win by looking good.

@YoubutWorse

It was me telling people what I think about certain slots so that people can read me and understand my logic better. That alone is helpful

Except you ultimately didn’t share anything of use about those slots?

@YoubutWorse

they ASKED PEOPLE to ask them questions WHAT

I’m weird for disliking questions, sure. Whatever.

@YoubutWorse

I havent read them personally, like without looking at someone elses ISO. Mollys anaylsis made sense to me at the time though so I was ok with their execution.

Why not quickly ISO O.kazo’s posts yourself, come to your own conclusion? Why not double-check?

@YoubutWorse

can , except I don’t have a lack of reads

Alright, here’s a test: why do you townread Kingtroll? This is a serious question intended to gauge your critical thinking.

@YoubutWorse

I mean it did seem like a lot of meta reading of okazo which I had never played with before, dont rememeber too particually tho since this was like a few days ago

@YoubutWorse

I said Id probably end up on okazo eventually? What?

Exactly, but you didn’t. And if you thought it was meta, why mention the possibility of voting there anyway?

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@Zorvo

May/Lol/Vulgard/Marluxion/King/Eliza contains the 2 wolves.
Maybe YBW but I doubt it

Lemon, Brad, Silviu, Molly and Magnus are all town.

I could buy your town list. I think someone’s missing from the collective group, though? Eleven names, when there should be twelve (discounting Zorvo)?

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@YoubutWorse

I want to kill both him and you even more now you do NOT understand how spiteful I am

“Wants to execute players you don’t like, instead of players you think are bad.” Sorry, but I’m not dying today. And if I don’t die today, I doubt I die tomorrow. I won’t be nightkilled, either. I make it to D4 at the earliest, imo.

@YoubutWorse

i can accept this reasoning and is honestly what I was thinking but I am still mad at marl and feel like he should be able to townread me easily rn

Literally wanting to kill people you don’t like.

@YoubutWorse

I mean, min was JOAT, so like theres a reason right there. I didn’t look back to see if that was like obvious at all bc I dont remember thinking they were JOAT at all

I don’t think anyone discussed the possibility of Min being JOAT, so… unless wolves pegged Min with a really good social read.

@YoubutWorse

I still really want to wolfread him just bc he scumreads me but I do think he has been townier throughout the day so fine

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@lol

idk why magnus is the wagon at all dude is pogged up

We’re making up for a lack of wagon yesterday.

[Zorvo]

@Magnus

Whether or not I agree with the reads personally, or whether it’s Marl being Marl, I tend to see “multiple reads + decent analysis” as “towny”.

Ugh….
What?

You know that is NAI for Marluxion right.
He’s a player that always does that no matter his role.

[Magnus]

Is there a recent w!Marl game I could read through? I’ll keep an open mind.

[Zorvo]

@Magnus

I think someone’s missing from the collective group, though? Eleven names, when there should be twelve (discounting Zorvo)?

There is 12 names and I didn’t include myself.

[Zorvo]

Sure yeah this one:

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[KingTroll]

@Magnus

Kingtroll’s in townlean because I haven’t played with him, and for all I know you’re getting duped.

you’re never going to get me past townlean i’m afraid one of my earliest games i got myslynched due a meta read by a wolf and since then i’ve changed my meta every three games or so for fun. the liking every post is going to stay though

@Magnus

@YoubutWorse

i can accept this reasoning and is honestly what I was thinking but I am still mad at marl and feel like he should be able to townread me easily rn

Literally wanting to kill people you don’t like.

this quote also applies to several other players in this game. including marl given how marl wanted to kill vulgard d1 for not townreading them easily after vulgard’s slight push on them so