sheriff isn’t if you play your cards right
but judging on how hard it is to get away with an exe claim fairs fair
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Just about anything that could visit was a viable claim for arsonist and according to the feedback, dousing wasn’t announced.
worse comes to worse
scream at people and say you’re doc
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Invest is - it gives rabdom 3 roles it’s impossible to dodge it
Consig is cause it gets informed its arso.
Trapper / rber and doc arent instant lose (and I said so), but consideeing I dont know who was doused, also make it hard to plan ahead, shall you target one of those.
Lo and tracker are, cause only valid faleclaims arso can make are protectives. Rest is very confirmable.
And arso wants to target very opposite of “likely to die” claim scale than protectives.
Meaning it cannot actually get claim that i track/lo case.
But also cannot claim something confirmable.
Which puts it in situation where there is no valid claim if tracked.
Noone will leave alive neutral check.
It wpuld be harder to survive than just claiming neutral.
Cause all “cooperate” argument is out of window.
Yeah, go ahead and tell me how would you work any of this roles as a claim.
The same visit profile as arso are inests.
Invest neess to know exact role.
Lookout and tracker exact visits. Which makes them pretty much not doable.
Sheriff is easiest of those 4. But still has big room for mess ups.
Again, doc visists people who are likely to die.
Arso people who are likely to survive.
Tracker and lookout check is always blocking the doctor claim.
Even if its literally only non confirmable role in the end.
I mean, in orginal ToS the pairing was sheriff/exec/arso for that reason.
Arso was able to claim sheriff and get away by providing results. While in case they read people incorrectly, it could still get away as exec.
After it was deemed weak, they added check immunity.
And after that was still deemed not enough, rhey got rework to have theirs douses frame people and them check as framer/arso/framed/doused invest grouping.
Which was probably closest to what you can achieve, cause it made people doubt if arso check is arso to begin with.
The groupings were basing on what each role could fakeclaim, so you can get the gist that ToS never found a good fakeclaim for arso in its roles to begin with and had to rework it.
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Uh
It was literally never this result in ToS
Arso throws Bodyguard/Godfather/Arsonist
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that result was sheriff/exe/ww iirc
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im kinda enamored of just running a dreamer-type role for this setup type with non-fixed pairings
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One thing in common
Invest was always a shit role 
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goddamn those old results were garbage lmao
the new one arent great still but like
Your target could be a Mayor, Godfather or Vampire Hunter
You know for a role whose entire gimmick is not getting found by invests, they sure are easy to investigate…
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the bg/jailor/lookout result is atrocious lmao
You are talking game, Im talking forum.
Cause we are playing forum mafia here.
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Like really, who cares about game when forun standards are different due to more time to react and analyze.
Thats why half assed claims don’t work in FM.
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Imagine invest getting 3 random results for a role instead.
Cause who cares about logical pairings.
Why not make it consig/arsonist/ressurectionist :^)
You happen to be arso / consig? Sucks to be you.
Pretty much yes
The only reason botc Dreamer works is because it’s not actually random
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