Happy Tree Friends FM - Game Thread Night 3 13/20

You underestimate me a bit. I can be out of the box when it benefits me. I use the box as i please in any way i please. You, i am afraid, do not benefit me at this time. But i am charmed to meet you.

Also.

Fun fact.

Possessor is name of one of the killers used in original classic FoL setup.
Like actual killing role. Not just redirect, but a killer which CAN redirect people.

:stuck_out_tongue:

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Ideals are mere words and wishes.
Real events are undeniable reality.

Like, unless eevee says the redirection is not forced, then me shooting eevee is never a negative.

Because if Possessor exists and can redirects me forcefully, then shooting eevee is always a net-positive for Town, seeing as I recall someone saying that we canā€™t win together anyway.

I would dare to say I donā€™t benefit mafia more than I donā€™t benefit town.

Alas your position is weakened by the fact that i have marl over in the corner ready for his pelt to come off. 3 mafia are much less scary than 4.

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Thatā€™s true.

You are assuming there is 4 mafia, not 5 in this assumption.
Which Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s negative or positive to me.

Any of the other killers means more deaths. But also are bit less scarry than organized team.

Additionally, lynching you tomorrow 100% gives the added benefit of not having to out any more town member roles or endanger town. You being anti town and lynched tomorrow has only benefits for town.

5 mafia is even worse for you. Less zaniness

Oh sorry

ā€˜Varianceā€™

Not really.

Again, basic design knowledge is that NK role is to balance the setup.
I know that Marl is cornered. But even after them flipping mafia, I would not say setup is town-sided at all.

It might be weird approach, but I am doing my job here. Ergo helping weaker faction. And by numbers, itā€™s town.

Yes and no.

It still means you need to catch 4 mafias with at mostā€¦ 3 misslynches?
I think itā€™s 3.

Not ideal situation.

3 mislynches and a stupid amount of power to do it.

Depends on number of civilians.

Letā€™s go back to original setup.
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Something along this lines was considered more or less balanced.

So I expect around ~50% of townies to be without role.

Even better. Maybe they will hit non power at night

Better that town is weaker? :smiley:

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This looks more to the part number-wise.
Still 1 person off and roles bit different.

But you get the most likely balance.

If that is reality the weakness is supplanted by the benefits that they will have to target blindly vs not targeting blindly. If we are weaker it becomes even more important to lynch you tomorrow so we dont out any of our more limited roles during the day.

(I can do this all day eevee i am kind of a monster at mafia theory even if i dont know fol meta)

Tho I guess we can see it tommorowā€¦ kinda.

If itā€™s really just 2 NKs, then that many roles make sense.

Itā€™s kind of pointless discussion.

Like I can see your point, you can see mine.
You play conservative. I would normally take the risk, but DEPENDING on who is the neutral.

Like I would never trust players like Marshal or Marluxion or Vulgard.
Those are players who would betray for memes (no offense, itā€™s how I perceive the situation).

Paradoxally I think only players who either can see mechanical situation and are willingly trying to cooperate for game reasons OR players doing it for memes would go with offer like this.

I definitely am in the first category.