Happy Tree Friends FM - Game Thread Night 3 13/20

Mostly gut and wishful thinking at this point honestly.

This is wrong. I know for sure he asked her to defend him from me.

I remember tha thg too. I had almost forgotten about that.

Best marl post of the topic tbh.

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Time for me to head out and relax a bit now too. :sleepingleafeon:

This is an ok take, it makes sense

Alice has been calling Leafia town this entire time, I think. If Leafia is a wolf I would highly recommend yeeting Alice. Iā€™m not entirely convinced Leafia is a wolf rn, though, so Iā€™m holding that thought.

From memory, I do think this was true early on, so Iā€™m not scrutinizing it much. Letā€™s see how this develops later.

So sheā€™s saying Kii/Illwei/Wazza/Leafia town, Min/Brad/Achro/Eliza probably more like null.
Kinda OK, a little worried about that null range, though.

Gotta compare the timestamp to all the Marl stuff

Think his wagon was building but idk if it was top yet

Worth noting these. Alice/Hippo very likely not w/w because this has gone straight into today as well. I know Alice busses sometimes and I canā€™t really give an opinion on the Marl vote yet, but she sure ainā€™t bussing Hippo.

This take i obviously agreed with, but it came as a reply to my take, and also after Achro started the push on Marl. So hard to say if she was just echoing what was already being said, or if she truly had her own view.

Weā€™re looking at a dead town vig now, and this is possibly outdated meta.
Not sure I like this.

Read progression for solving Eliza seems ok
Not awe-inspiring but acceptable

Oh hey, hereā€™s another Marl post on Alice, idk how I missed it.
And itā€™s a weird post accusing Alice of possibly being another neutral killer (long before eevee claimed).

So I was wrong, they did interact.

This is consistent with her reads

This is about Hippo

Actually I kind of feel like sheā€™s right

I am very glad min only flipped citizen lol

Meh
(she did put a correction that she meant to say heā€™s not as polarized as he used to be)

Think this take is probably correct
Doesnā€™t look bad either, I know it was about the serial killer claim

This post looks good I think
She implies Marlā€™s fate is sealed at this point and wants to use discussion time on someone else

She didnā€™t sound convinced that he would actually flip potato ret tbh

My take on this situation so far is that Alice was definitely in a position to bus Marl, she couldā€™ve been setting up for it the entire time, but she also couldā€™ve steered thread discussion so that it continued to discuss Marl and only Marl, and allowed for him to antispew effectively by keeping focus on him. Instead she tells people to look in other places since Marl is guaranteed to die if heā€™s a wolf.

Her readlist looks fine
I have faith that sheā€™s good enough as a wolf for her readlist to look fine
But at least this matches up with her stated progressions on everyone sheā€™s commented on, thus far
And again, the Marl thing is pretty central because sheā€™s talked a lot about him, but she also wants the discussion to focus on finding other wolfy slots, when she could find ways to waste townā€™s time if she wanted to.

This is like the one thing that gives me hesitation, but I donā€™t think itā€™s that weird to be concerned Marl is actually a retributionist or else town FPSing. If she wanted to commit to bussing him she probably wouldā€™ve just done it when he claimed ret, instead of putting him at ā€œ80% likely to flip wolfā€.

She implied earlier that she thought leafia was v, this is consistent, and my only question is why Alice sounds like she just realized Leafia is towny even though she already said it before. Idk though could just be a wording thing.

She couldā€™ve jumped on it if she wanted to save him, but if sheā€™s a wolf sheā€™s committing to bussing him at this point, which doesnā€™t match up with what she said a few posts above.
This is towny because she sounds like sheā€™s making a strategic decision for the progression of the game and not just waffling on whether or not to bus Marl, when she could hard commit to either bussing or defending. She doesnā€™t sound wishy-washy when she gives takes about his claim, and checks the opinions of people she is townreading.

I read through her posts on beancat and while I still disagree, I donā€™t think she did such a bad job explaining why she thought beancat was wolfing.

This whole interaction looks better for Alice than it does for Hippo
I am actually a bit more concerned that Hippo was some form of non-town than Alice
I mean, yeah, Alice could be non-group scum too but clearly she and Hippo are not aligned, and Hippo looks more aligned with Marl than Alice does because of how EoD1 went. Marl didnā€™t mention either of them much during the day, but Hippo kind of wolfsided and Alice went for Marl.

Also
This was a sensible take and idk why Hippo was pushing against it

Uhhh I think Iā€™ve read enough, tl;dr - Alice seems like town, Iā€™m not as confident as I am on some other townreads, but I would definitely not yeet her before Hippo.

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Pretty sure janitors can usually target anyone but themselves

OK I thought I saw that post when I isoā€™d him the first time, idk how I missed it this time but itā€™s probably because my phone suddenly decided to postjump and I lost my place momentarily

There were other posts mentioning or interacting with Alice, yes

Idk, maybe whoever said Marl mightve been the highest posting wolf on the team was right

But then why did he out as wolf and not make someone else do it? Because he was suspected?

I said that

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Marl was super dead. I wss only ever as chill as i was until because there was never a threat to him being the lynch yeah.

Your in depth sums up my thoughts on alice. Some pings, mostly fine.

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Also how tf did i scumside d1

I just sheeped achro and vote dumped on marl all day.

Like i didnt do much but i didnt scumside

Also agreeing with alices ā€œhipoo is mafia cuz they arent trolling kiirumaā€ isā€¦something

That was clearly them cluctching at straws lol

I still think alice cld well be town but is just being bad and tunneling tbh

Or theyre exe.

Cld also be mafia but if soā€¦mafia played v v badly yesterday and also i hope that alice isnt silly enough to kill eeevee last night.

Either way theyre deffo thinking of reasons to sus me instead of looking at facts and coming to conclusions naturally.

Cause like
Ive reached the conclusion Achro is town from the whole fiasco with Marl, Vulgard is town from the way Marl indirectly TMIā€™d him as town when pushing Leafia for voting Vulgard (and especially if Brad flips wolf, which I am 99.9% sure he will) and Alice is probably also town because of how she handled Marlā€™s ret claim and because her overall push on him didnā€™t just feel like piggybacking. And Iā€™m town. So my readlist looks like this:

Town, never EVER touch:
Achro (Marl interaction the whole of D1)
Vulgard (hard cleared if Brad flips w)
Kiiruma (Marl push very opportunistic)
Illwei (hard cleared if Brad flips w)

Town, I will be extremely angry if you yeet them for reasons that arenā€™t concrete:
Atlas (worked very well with Achro, didnā€™t agenda push my slot even though Achro was suspicious of me and Marl was pushing me)
Alice (handled Marlā€™s ret claim very well and made an effort to solve other slots in the meantime)
Gorta (whatever I said about his iso)
Beancat (sheā€™s dead convinced Iā€™m scum and I can tell sheā€™s serious about it)
Wazza (sheā€™s correct about Brad honestly, and has been since D1, and I also think she wouldnā€™t be the first wolf Marl would attempt multiple times to bus)

Shrug:
Leafia (not cleared from really anything, is within her townrange and also her scumrange, canā€™t tell if sheā€™s alive as a misyeet or as a wolf so like whatever at this point, I have other priorities)
PlagueSimp (hasnā€™t been doing anything of note, shrugyeet tbh)

Direct outer PoE:
Hippo (idk what heā€™s been doing but itā€™s not towny at all)

Inner PoE, yeet:
BradLand (this is pretty much always a wolf)

This is my legacy aorn but I still need to ISO Hippo in fairness

Ok maybe youā€™re right about it then lol

Like this is me just giving a read how is tmi in anyway? There were 2 sussy ppl interacting weirdly and i noted it.

And then alice votes me over marl even tho marl is more suspicous in isolation so from alices pov it makes sense to vote marl first even if they think we are aligned.

You kept saying we should yeet eevee

I never once said that are u serious