Happy Tree Friends FM - Game Thread Night 3 13/20

[BradLand]

What Illwei has done is two things to shake my townread of Leafia: 1. Have scumreads in past games that end up being correct, which I get that it has nothing to do with this game but when I know someone that has great reads I tend to give their word way more weight.
2. Just overall her explanations of why Leafia’s posts were wolfy. I kinda understood where she was coming from and the reasons.

Illwei vote hopping is normal for her town game…she did it a relatively decent amount in the PR Madness game I was speaking about on MU, including 0 explanation votes.
Actually a decent amount of players do this on MU as town, it just happens.
And yeah I would say the “vote and let it play out” kinda fits in there.

[Leafia]

Oops. Sorry and fair enough.

[Achromatic]

Hmm, I feel like your two most in depth posts this game have been explaining Illwei to me. It is a bit concerning you only seem to find your voice when talking about one particular player. I hope you manage to expand a bit more as the day and game goes on, but for now I appreciate the info.

[BradLand]

Yeah you’ll get used to that.

I’ll out my stuff when I get it like I told Vulgard.

[BradLand]

If I have a townread I’m super confident on I lodge it into your head.

[BradLand]

Do I do iso’s right now or is it too early for it?

[Achromatic]

good to know

how many swings and misses do you give illwei before you start to go ‘uh oh’? Is there a number?

Also do an iso of me, I am very ego centric and new!

[BradLand]

Fine and possibly 2 at most.

[BradLand]

Fuck you have 104 dude.

[Achromatic]

less than Illwei!

[Illwei]

Crying bc im just a pleb average player

[Illwei]

Funny bc i have but not as much
Implies to me that you havent actually read anything ive posted besides about you which isn’t ai for people like me idk

[Zorvo]

@Illwei

I was under the assumption that it wasn’t a legitimate proposal, so I don’t think it holds the weight that you seem to think it does

I think for a majority of my read here I had a bit of a mindmelt with Illwei.
Like I can understand vulgard’s read here on Eliza it’s just that I personally don’t entirely agree with it.
If vulgard is a wolf it would mean vulgard just made that post to reach for a town read and IMO may indicate that if vulgard flips wolf then Eliza is probably town as I don’t think he is gonna reach for a town read on a wolfmate this early into the game.
also as Illwei pointed out and if I recall correctly I’m fairly certain Eliza does joke post at times so the post itself is a borderline neutral post that should not serve as alignment indicate.

@Illwei

again something from leafia which i don’t like

that post from achro is basically filler if you really think about it because he’s not saying anything no one else really already knows and it’s a general meta comment that can be easily townread

it’s not wolfy

it’s just not towny

Basically the reason this post caught my eye was because achro has done allot of that “Village/Wolfy Post” and Illwei pointing that out feels like a good look for them.

@Illwei

This is for everyone who doubts my Wazza townread.

I go with my gut, the same gut that caught several deep wolves when no one else did, the same gut that was able to find fellow townies good when no one else could, the same gut that could consistently read Arete, and the same gut that is decent at reading people I have no meta on and getting accurate reads. I make mistakes, but I have learned that if I don’t trust my own gut I accidently shoot townies. There have been games in which I trusted a public shotlist and neglected my own gut feelings and guess what, I was right. Some things can’t be explained with “reason”, it just works. You should try trusting intuition more. I really don’t try to have a massive ego, it’s just I want people to recognize my gift

So first off I want to point out that the first part here had a very genuine vibe towards it, starting off with mention of they read by “Gut” and backed it up by stating how good their gut has been on a past experience level. Like I can relate to some things said and as I said previously “Genuine Vibes” there was allot of honesty within that post. Sometimes within a mafia games if you read into someone too socially and pin point anything that looks townie or things people say about the game that look real good or something it isn’t always the go to aka Reason ain’t always accurate. Personally I look at things that aren’t done by a wolf or I feel have no wolf motivation and I feel Illwei here has no wolf motivation. I’m not saying having no reasoning is to be considered normal I’m saying that don’t consider no reason gut reads bad because quite honestly its still readable you just gotta know how to tell if someone’s gut read is real or fake.

[Illwei]

Offended to be likened to those on MU as if my style is heavily influenced by there

[Illwei]

For legal reasons this can be a joke but just between me and you its not

[Illwei]

I kept seeing this post and telling myself i would wait til i had finished catching up for it and it was an underwhelming interaction

[BradLand]

I get what you’re saying and I agree.

[Achromatic]

Illwei’s slot play list fact check because why not.

mentions of Wazza, Achromatic, ironically 222 from Illwei is asking leafia ‘what do you mean I am not looking at other people’ which is what this post 500 posts later is about, brad, light town read of wind, not liking vul’s vote (I am pretty sure), says marl is better than rand wolf

votes me

votes wazza

votes zorvo

so my take away is that Illwei has discussed a fair amount of players but the two people she has really talked about the most is leafia and me, so I could see why Leafia might think Illwei is focused on from just casually thinking about it.

[Illwei]

@WindwardAway for when you get back shortly above me is the explaination lol

[Illwei]

Yeah thats what i said just less words