Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

Yes Magnus is IC contextually not by role.

It’s something i say a lot even in mountainous games. I do not and have never and have repeatedly said Magnus is not an IC by role . I do not believe that. Read my full iso and stop cherry picking

I’d rather go after Lemlem first before Lissi.

I have seen you and Wazza doubt Lissi for being Lissi (AKA kind and talkative), but that in itself is way better than Lemlem, who is throwing mechanics out of the window and scumreading Chihiro who has claimed Jailkeeper.

Pretty sure that was me and also this is the answer i wanted thank you

And you think scum would do this because why exactly?

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I see the Eliza read. I agree with the Eliza read.
I don’t see the Lemon or Neon in this post other than them being in the town pile.

Doesn’t even explain Lemon either:

Yeah, Eliza is town regardless of anyone else’s flip tbh.

Hmm yeah, Lissi’s progression here isn’t adding up tbh.

They went from “Frost over here seems to be spewing Zorvo Town” to going into today like “yeah Zorvo can be PoE.”

Personally I think Lissi is using Lemon as a throw in so when it comes down to it, let’s say late game.
They try and make themselves look more aligned with Lemon than Neon.

Tbh I feel @Lemonfairy might be being used by the wolves here and they are town being sucked in together with Lissi and Neon.

That’s my new solve.
Lissi and Neon.

So you don’t think Magnus is actual IC?
Can you explain this better I don’t understand.

Lemon being worried that their tunnel might actually still be scum and not town despite mech and continuing to tunnel is a towny trait.

Lemon being willing to work with me and shelf the tunnel while keeping it in the back of their mind is a towny trait.

Lemon being right on Frost and wanting to continue pushing their worldview is a towny trait.

Lemon can be wrong and still be town and is willing to work work town despite how they feel. That’s towny.

Zorvo on the other hand is gaslighting the thread. Lying about verifiable facts repeatedly and refusing to work with people who offer an olive branch and continue pushing town on false narratives. That is not town.

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Weren’t YOU the one saying about not believing the Jailkeeper claim about that is throwing to no kill or something?

So why respond to this like you did hmm?

I am not refusing and not giving any false narratives

If your feeling I got something wrong or didn’t understand properly then talk with me about it.

I realize lemon is likely wrong on Chihiro. But i also realize that a town lemon could easily see worlds where Chihiro is mafia jk as I’ve also explored those worlds

The only difference between lemon and I is that i decided those worlds are not likely and lemon decided they are still.

Also it sounds to me that you’re setting up for a 180 on Lemon after my flip.

@Lemonfairy
What’s your thoughts?

Let’s just say: “If Lemlem is town, then she is -whether it be done consciously or not- doing a play.”
–and that in itself is something I don’t see v!Lemlem would do, let alone be capable of doing.

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I don’t know what you want me to say. I think Magnus is lying about being an IC. Its why I’ve explored Magnus scum worlds.

I don’t see a reason to not reveal at this stage. If you’ve claimed IC why wait to reveal. It feels fake and unnecessary.

Perhaps Magnus is waiting to see if he can catch a wolf before revealing,
@Magnus thoughts on Neon?

No I wasn’t. I’ve explored possibilities in Chihiro jk worlds this entire phase. This is my problem with you Zorvo. You are misrepresenting or straight up lying about what I’ve said and done.

I’ve explored worlds where mafia withheld and Chihiro is mafia JK

I’ve explored worlds where Zone was carrying the kill and was hit by the JK

I’ve explored worlds where Zone was the kill target

But every world I’ve actively explored has been with Chihiro being a JK

Why?

That is an incredibly dumb idea lol how does not claiming help in finding scum?

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Let’s not also forget I voted Eliza and wasn’t back for EoD.

Also you think this is what a wolf does with their Mafia PR?
Yeah no.

@Neon
So you and Lissi both had some change of thoughts during the night or what?