I also think Zone/Eliza isn’t the solve.
This would be a weird callout if so, Helluva Boss Mafia - Day 4 (8/13) - #1257 by ElizaThePsycho
And I agree the votes make it implausible. I don’t think as many people are spewed town by Frost as you are naming, though.
that’s exactly what I thought
Is it worth doing mech!spec about the mafia now?
We know there’s only 1 mafia PR.
Half the possible mafia roles are basically roleblockers, and the other three are investigatives.
If they had a roleblocker, couldn’t they just RB Chihiro last night instead of killing them? Or is that just a play that’s never worth it? Well, I guess there weren’t any consensus town to kill after yesterday, so maybe not then.
Why would w!Zone have missed that w!Frost was hard pushing scumbuddy w!Gorta (i.e. actually voting to back up his posts) during D2? He didn’t even realize that Frost’s actual vote push was on Gorta, not you, until I pointed it out. I think mentally there should be more of a note in his head about big stuff like this if he was W/W with Gorta.
TBF.
Frost said later his vote on Gorta meant nothing and was an RT.
And he wolf read me still.
So all that could have been talked about in wolf chat and so Zone never really considered Frost’s vote on Gorta legit.
Probably RB and kill them.
I think by then Frost was definitely in anti-spew mode and was tossing all his prior stances in the trash. He literally just voted anyone else, but when he was actually trying to save himself with a convincing argument consistently in the first half of D2, he was firm on voting Gorta.
Actually let me check when he said that, but I think it should’ve come after I talked to him.
I mean he probably wolf read one of his partners and also his final reads he didn’t even have Gorta in it and I don’t think he considered Gorta a real read and more likely a distancing tactic with their partner.
This is lol, Gorta is always passive.
Yeah I think this is distance.
Notice how Frost only had Gorta had a team with specifically me. But had me on multiple teams including with himself.
Y’know I just realized that post had me in every world
I feel dumb.
Yeah, at this point he was already voting Magnus. I’d say he’s no longer trying to follow his initial plan already.
Plus, Frost has a history of lying about his purpose after the fact. Him including Zone in the list of Magnus voters D1 was clearly a mistake, but he still decided it was a good idea to spin it like an intentional RT and lie about it.
I don’t see why this time, it would be him actually doing all of that to “RT” from the start.
yeah 
that’s why Zone thought Frost was pushing you, because his whole post was about how sus you were, and all his teams were built off you being wolf
But he refused to vote you, and was like, no ofc I’m gonna stay on Gorta
This also means there is another mafia goon and mafia knew Magnus was lying about IC.
Well, I think Zone just tuned out after skimming it and summing it up mentally as “Zorvo sus”
I also stopped reading the gigantic quote walls later too
But I still stand by thinking he would be pinged by the vote on Gorta and the multiple subsequent posts where Frost talked about it… ah, well I think so, right?
Him being unable to be host confirmed probably sealed the deal more than the jailkeeper claim.
I asked the host how IC works this game and I was told, IC can be confirmed at any point during the day.
Lots of people expressed doubt in thread, too. Like me, Wazza, and Neon, to name a few.
Why not vote Neon with Zorvo for a size 2 wagon instead of trying to get votes for a Zone wagon by yourself?