Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[Magnus]

Every mention Frost makes of Neon:

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I find this… decidedly unlikely

@Neon

At least and probably exactly one of these is a wolf.

@Zorvo

So basically you think 1/4 of Zone, Ash, Mist and Eliza is a wolf?

@Neon

No that’s not what that said at all

Also not zone i was lied to.

Whats unlikely about this? I mean, look again.

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I think it’s unlikely the mistake was intentional. I think it’s far more unlikely you think you are going to find scum in this manner.

Zorvo should have noticed Zone didn’t voted Magnus when I pointed out

Especially he replied to you about ‘if’ there is one wolf voting Magnus at the time he named Zone as among the ‘four’ and left me out as fifth ‘voter’

You read back to find inconsistency in my statement about five voters on Magnus wagon and you found it: Zone didn’t voted Magnus in the first place

So how come Zorvo failed to notice this?

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Hey that’s like exactly what i said lol

Ah no, the point is about the motive and shading of Zone over something Zone didn’t do like voting Magnus

@Neon

That’s literally what town is supposed to do lol

That’s fine, but if this wagon turns to be busted then no info is gained on this. I am just here trying to get lynched sooner than later.

Also why are you ignoring my read on Lissi I told you about?

@Frostwolf103

Even if that was universe of madness, the point Neon made is incorrect.

Its not about the exes that gives lot of info, it’s about what you do about with that information.

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

It’s why I advocate for 2 wagons by EoD. No vanities. No bull shit. Flip the counter by vig n1 or vote d2.

Fair point, that is why on Upick that Jaiden could have shot Eliza after Whysper being wagoned since Eliza is second most voted wagon by that time.

@Neon

I play a lot of mountainous. You don’t win mountainous because of anything more than info gained from flips.

I mostly play like ToL forum mafia games but anything else is foreign to me.

@Neon

Game is ez if you follow the rules but everybody thinks they are smarter than the game.

Without any sarcasm, I am different kind of intelligent and I am also anarchist meaning I don’t follow the townlead but follow my own way.

@Frostwolf103

@Lemonfairy

the part about Frost lying

Honestly my trap failed successfully, neon felt betrayed I put Zone as magnus voter, that’s why Neon said they have been lied to.

I mean, hello? Neon and Magnus himself is defending Zorvo about this ‘lack of research’ he admitted himself.

But no matter, no one is actually taking my bait here.

@Frostwolf103

@Lemonfairy

could you explain what you were doing, why you were doing it, and what you got from it?

Right, yeah I was doing reaction test, Neon used my post and Zorvo took notice of that post and asked if one of the voters is a wolf, including Zone. Which Zorvo doesn’t realize at the time what he got himself into this

Neon also realised that she being lied to my reaction test, I mean that’s fine since Neon had to ISO more closely which I think that’s AI to read more into the matter while Zorvo may have used Zone to shade him.

Although he went back to the whole Chihiro/Ashlyn which I find it interesting to say the least

@Lemonfairy

hey Frost, can I get 3 strongest townreads and 3 strongest scumreads from you?

Town: Magnus, Neon, Wazza
Scum: Lissi, Zorvo, Ashlyn

In no particular order, even though I say strong to weak

@Frostwolf103

@Mistyx

VOTE: Neon

i’m gonna go here :3

anyone have any thoughts

I need to look for Zorvo/Neon interactions

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Damn nobody fell for my trap card

(AKA Reaction test)

@Frostwolf103

@Zorvo

Spell Card Activate!

Book of Moon!

I don’t like Zorvo’s answer, interestingly when I did the reaction test where I put Zone on Magnus vote wagon, Neon is skeptical my reaction test wouldn’t work that way which is note worth to be remember that

@Frostwolf103

@Zorvo

So basically you think 1/4 of Zone, Ash, Mist and Eliza is a wolf?

Neon and Zorvo are not aware at this moment, yet. My ‘mistake’ is actually reaction test who would pay attention to that detail

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I find this… decidedly unlikely

VOTE: Frostwolf103

Now, first red flag to me while I am reading during N1

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

PoE.

With both Ashlyn/Aelin and Mistyx died, I look like scapegoat at this point

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Hey that’s like exactly what i said lol

@Magnus

Mindmeld lock town.

Don’t be so quick on this, I have presented an counterpoint between Zorvo and Neon, heck even Day 2 circumstances have changed that Neon while still on me together with Zorvo, Neon’s perspective on Zorvo have changed that rubs the wrong way for Neon.

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I’d bet a substantial sum of my non existent money that there is one wolf in

Misty
Frost
Ashlyn.

Exactly one. Which one I donut know.

This is why I have mixed vibes about Zorvo/Neon since this one is posted by D1

@Neon

VOTE: Zorvo

This is a pressure view because I’m getting pinged but I’m spiritually on Frost right now

I am bringing this wallpost up and I should be correct on my read, then I will certainly execute Zorvo later rather than sooner so there will be one wolf left.

@Frostwolf103

@Lissi

How is Magnus saying Zorvo should have followed up on his question to Mistyx about me, Mistyx calling Zorvo sus, and Ashlyn flipping green supposed to be connected?

The reason I am not voting Neon I find Zorvo/Neon unaligned today, her PoE consisted between me/Misty/Ashlyn which both of two are now dead. I would think that I am going to be scapegoat now.

@Frostwolf103

@Lissi

???

This is not what you said at ALL when you made an enormous ISO of Zorvo and based your solve around Zorvo

What do you mean? I am intended to execute Gorta first before Zorvo, Zorvo do interacted a lot and this huge wallpost is what I am trying to piece together who he interacted with

Neon, Lemon, Gorta, Chihiro and Magnus are the people that comes first in my mind I believe he has sufficient interaction. For now that will be my PoE AFTER Zorvo, I mayhaps think I take steps too far in the current day but that’s why I want this done sooner rather than later and pick Zorvo tomorrow.

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I hate wall posts lol.

basically summarizing relevant Zorvo’s posts and tying other posts to summary.

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Frost are scrambling like mad to distance.

You…misunderstand my intentions here, Gorta first and then Zorvo next.

@Frostwolf103

@Lemonfairy

hey

give me a readslist pls

Townreads: Magnus, Wazza, Zone_Q11, Neon
Scumreads: Zorvo, Gorta, Eliza
Null: Chihiro, Lissi
You:

@Frostwolf103

@Lemonfairy

explain Wazza and Neon townreads

Wazza have interesting view about Lissi which I find it agreeable despite her low count posts

@Frostwolf103

Ah yeah I forgot about Neon

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Lol.

VOTE: Frost

Thanks for making the choice easy

Whatever, either you do actual content on day 2 and vote something sensible or stay parked.

I have no time in your reaction test bullshit

@Frostwolf103

Maybe I shall do that
VOTE: Neon

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

No. I’m not. Please explain what changed and why you’ve chosen now to become annoyed at thread state?

I already explained it before

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

This is a deliberate misrepresentation of what has happened and my play.

So I got asked a lot why I didnt vote Zorvo when I made first wallpost and is on Gorta first

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

People are trying to engage with you

People are trying to help you find Gorta

Me and Magnus were working on solving you

People have been working on solving Zorvo.

Yes, I have a problem with that.

Why between the three and not elsewhere?

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

Who? Who do you think is not doing enough?

First most, Zorvo and Gorta are the people I am pressuring them to do stuff but I get punished in doing that.

I did ask Magnus and yes up until now, I am now seeing result what Magnus think of Gorta, hopefully if either me or someone should pressure Magnus more about the rest of playerlist, then there will be more options to consider on Day 3 even if I end up dying.

I don’t want for town to see getting blocked by wall because I feel there is not enough post D1 info to going on and by Post D2 there is only just me and Zorvo

Gorta have been repeating what he said already and I can understand from D1 that social reads aren’t his strong play, but I disagree with his motion to stay silent

Wazza isn’t like Gorta, she have something to start reading, voting from her D1 read makes me believe Lissi is wolf from her perspective

Eliza is worse than Gorta, i thought she is way more active than either alignment

Chihiro is missing now as well, D1 is decent for her but thats about it.

Zone only focus what concerns him and well yes, he pretty much broke my reads I presented him and keeps it quiet

I dont know what to think of Lissi and Lemon

@Frostwolf103

Ah yeah this reminds me @Neon

I don’t recall if someone talked about Misty’s death in more detail

@Frostwolf103

@Neon

I think your a wolf and i think you’ve made that obvious over the last few hours

Distancing Zorvo in the meantime ayaya

Thats you actually, ah but doesnt matter.

I got actual wolf now

@Frostwolf103

Magnus/Zorvo/Neon

@Frostwolf103

@Zorvo

Why do you even think this exactly?

On D2, I used you as bait. Like remember neon voted you and when I did that, she changes the vote back on like it didn’t mattered?

@Frostwolf103

@Zorvo

They claim they were trying to get other players reactions and that they found me and neon wolf aligned or something which is directly false

Not you dummy, Neon and Magnus at least should be guilty. I am not too sure about you actually. I did say a lot about you on my Wallpost D2 (not SoD2)

@Frostwolf103

@Magnus

I don’t agree to my death, either.

Should we both agree on a mutual target and move on with our lives?

I don’t know if this is trick question because I pretty made point of no backpedal because I literally said Zorvo wasn’t scum but given that he reads that Neon and Eliza are partnered, while Eliza says thats not possible.

@Zone_Q11

@Frostwolf103, if you were Town Vengeful, who would you kill upon your death?

@Frostwolf103

Uh…

Neon?

@Frostwolf103

@Magnus

Why Neon over the person you’re supposedly in a thunderdome with, by your own admission?

Oh then I do mean Zorvo yeah.

Silly me.

[Magnus]

@ElizaThePsycho

like imagine being a wolf and defending zone d1 a ton while making a joint plan to miseliminate chihiro and then pulling it off (a big feat, she’s really good at the game and one of our biggest threats) and have him more or less be a consensus villager only for somebody you were planning to miselim turning out to be tracker with a red on zone. This is totally hypothetical btw but if I were hypothetically a wolf in this situation I would find it really unfair that TWICE IN A ROW I GOT $%#!ING BUTTON CLICKED mechanically taking a very winning position into a tougher one. It’d absolutely ruin my hypothetical day.

therefore we should kill magnus to make it more fair

Proph added a pair of Masons instead of a town investigative or anything into Love Is War, reasoning they were of a similar powerful level without feeling as bad for evils. I think that was a really fair decision.

[Magnus]

Who are you leaning towards today?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

lemon
i mean, yeah its plausible its neon
but idk

[Magnus]

You’ll need to sell me on that one.

[Lemonfairy]

@Frostwolf103

Oh then I do mean Zorvo yeah.

Silly me.

oh yeah, this last one’s pretty bad

[Lemonfairy]

@ElizaThePsycho

lemon

why is it me?

[Lemonfairy]

I mean, I probably won’t be convinced no matter what you say but I’d like to see the reasons at least

[Lemonfairy]

(btw are votes locked?)

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i don’t think so?

[Magnus]

@Host_Account_5

• Votes are locked in LyLo. LyLo (but not MyLo) is announced and will be determined only from the number of Town and Mafia left, without the interference of roles.

@Lemonfairy

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

okay
so basically
you lost all motivation after Zone got jailkept (if memory serves)
… actually that’s my main piece of evidence i can remember
i also remember saying that Neon is only wolf with Zorvo (and look how thate turned out!)
i don’t remember why i said that tho

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

okay maybe i should re-eval

[Lemonfairy]

@ElizaThePsycho

you lost all motivation after Zone got jailkept (if memory serves)

no, I think I was still pretty spirited at that time
I was still shouting for Chihiro to be exe’d even after Chihiro claimed to have blocked Zone
and also pushing for Wazza too

I lost motivation after Wazza flipped town and Chihiro got NK’d and also flipped town

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

…yeah I should definitely re-eval

[Neon]

@Lemonfairy

I’m fine with this but I think we no-exe today

I agree we should also just hammer that imho

VOTE: No Exe

[Neon]

@Lemonfairy

Zorvo was hard defending me though

I’m thinking it’s just Magnus honestly

[Neon]

@Lemonfairy

why does Neon alone have 592 posts?

I have WiM baby

[Neon]

@Magnus

I would’ve have missed EOD either way, but… hammer grr.

[Neon]

@Magnus

Anyway, going back to that pattern of dead villagers having incorrect reads… Gorta was proven incorrect on Zorvo last night. This is a bad omen, but I’m pretty confident it’s Neon.
I will be voting no-exe today unless something interesting happens. I would expect Neon to push on Lemon today, given what happened yesterday?

My friends. This is a woof.