Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[Lemonfairy]

my vote is still on Frost in spirit

[Lemonfairy]

if anyone wants to real-time, just ping me

[Lemonfairy]

how come?

[Lemonfairy]

@Wazza

If you look back, all they did towards the start especially is just ask questions over and over and over again, it’s good to get things explained, but when you’re doing nothing with what you’ve received then it’s like, what is the point?

this is NAI for Lissi

[Frostwolf103]

@Gorta

here we go, except now I can watch stuff and type on a big screen WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@Zorvo

Hey where is that PFP I gave you?

NAI

@Gorta

anything AI so far?

@Magnus

Everything is AI, unless it’s NAI.

Boring.

@Gorta

it’s best to really decide reads later in the day/on d2

As far I recall, mostly focused on me and nothing else.

Hence I voted him for pressure he’s not doing it on D2 right now.

@Neon

D1 reads are best reads.

@Magnus

D1 reads are pretty important. Evils are trying to find cracks in the Town, strong villagers assert themselves, everyone flocks to certain schools of thought… I agree with Neon.

Too early to draw conclusion with Gorta/Magnus

@Gorta

lol, I’m a boomer with technology

@Zorvo

Go to preferences and click on the pencil icon thing next to your current picture and then change that picture to the one I got you.

NAI

@Neon

I strongly disagree

@Gorta

in my experience the most of d1 is usually fluff posting, so getting x town or y scum reads from so little is not very reliable

@Gorta

literally by the time I got here yesterday people were making reads and 90% of the posts were fluff/joke posts/votes

Helluva Boss Mafia - Day 2 (11/13)

Sounds basically like me how I view D1 mostly as well, but I may have to lose diehard habits to improve myself. HOWEVER! I don’t like this passive play I have conflicting view on that, I am afraid. Given how Mistyx died Interesting? Repeat once noted. Repeat twice He still hasn’t made his evaluation A lot, with capital A

Bunch of my answers

@Gorta

but I’m suspicious of anyone who gets serious town/scum reads in the first bit of d1 that isn’t some kind of gut read because even in the ISOs/cases there isn’t much to suspect each other on

Like who other than me??

@Lemonfairy

give reads pls

@Gorta

N O

You’re starting to understand why I voted you? No?

@Gorta

I couldn’t provide any reads at this time because there is not much to base reads on

@Lemonfairy

there is enough
I know this because I have reads

@Zone_Q11

12 hours have passed, and I see two note-worthy events:

• People hopping on-and-off Magnus’ wagon
• Whatever Chihiro and Ashlyn are doing

Now, if I try to rationalize the events between me, Chihiro, and Ashlyn, then Chihiro has already said my conclusion: “Ashlyn seems opportunistic.”

That’s sus, but I already have my vote on her, and there appears to have been any progress whatsoever on this front; I don’t see her feeling pressured at all. So, continuing this is probably useless. …probably.

The issue now is: If I don’t double down on Ashlyn, then my only interest is Magnus’ wagon, which… looks like more work than staying on Ashlyn to be honest.

@Lemonfairy

vibe-reading this as a town!Zone post
I have decent levels of confidence in this read

@Gorta

I guess I can understand these are reads, but I remember when I would gut read someone it was frowned upon

I…wha please. Are you embarrassing yourself or something?

@Gorta

I can’t produce those naturally and when I do get them they just come into existence

@Lemonfairy

ok fair

@Gorta

neon saying it’s possible get serious reads in the first 100 posts or so is weird because there is only fluff, so the only way you can make serious reads there would be TMI

Are you shading Neon about TMI?

@Gorta

vibe reads are usually subject to change and usually aren’t very solid

@Neon

A. I said day 1 not 100 posts

B. I’ve seen people ping the entire mafia team as town day 1… repeatedly.

@Gorta

also @Zorvo it is done

Oh the pfp I think this is going.

@Ashlyn

‘Twas a very sarcastic comment.

It’s a bisected tree-man and it’s terrifying

@Gorta

lol, the attention to details Zorvo made is really good

I am Groot, 'nuff said.

@Gorta

problem is it’s impossible for me to just prove myself town through social means

I understand this reluctance, but faulty reads is better than none. That means by next day, social reads get better over time.

Am I making this most sensible thing I said this whole game?

@Gorta

and any attempt to force it would appear unnatural

@Magnus

Would you say being unable to prove oneself is a general problem, or your problem? If it’s the latter, what would you say holds you back, and how could you work on countering those barriers?

@Gorta

I don’t know

@Magnus

I can tell you it’s probably related to your general low activity. You’ve already expressed your opinion that D1 reads can’t really be formed, but if people tend to positively viberead activity and conscious solving, maybe spending more time around on the first day would make players more inclined to trust you?

@Gorta

maybe

Some bit of honesty goes long way?

@Gorta

I feel like Ashlyn is being a bit too serious for a d1 play though

@Gorta

VOTE: Ashlyn this is my vote for now

@Gorta

I just play. but I will say I’m a bit more cautious when I’m scum

I will ignore he said this, NAI.

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

if anyone wants to real-time, just ping me

Hey you @Lemonfairy

You’re finally awake.

[Lemonfairy]

hey
give me a readslist pls

[Lemonfairy]

I’ve been awake for hours, I just had work

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

hey
give me a readslist pls

Townreads: Magnus, Wazza, Zone_Q11, Neon
Scumreads: Zorvo, Gorta, Eliza
Null: Chihiro, Lissi
You:

[Lemonfairy]

why am I a wave?
what does that mean?

explain Wazza and Neon townreads
why are Chihiro and Lissi null?

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

why are Chihiro and Lissi null?

Chihiro I don’t have meaningful content that pings me good or bad, Lissi I am having a wall talking to (no offense)

@Lemonfairy

why am I a wave?

Saying hi, let’s just say you’re Null as well at this time being.

@Lemonfairy

explain Wazza and Neon townreads

Wazza have interesting view about Lissi which I find it agreeable despite her low count posts

@Wazza

VOTE: Lissi

My vote goes here based on things I’ve seen tbh

@Wazza

Also, didn’t have chance to explain my read yesterday as I had to dip asap, annoyingly enough.

Ngl, the Lissi vote was mostly because it felt like they were just prying comments to sway arguments in their direction without their own force from their own slot.

If you look back, all they did towards the start especially is just ask questions over and over and over again, it’s good to get things explained, but when you’re doing nothing with what you’ve received then it’s like, what is the point? This is also further shown later in the day where they just vote Ashlyn and then just dip without further explanation especially considering this went against her own thread traction and she’s suddenly just like “am good with voting Ashlyn”. My vote returns here

VOTE: Lissi

I apologise for slanking day 1 y’all, I had a few things going on, namely one being half blind

Still am, not got glasses atm.

And went back on D2 where she started, I respect her position atm.

@Magnus

Here’s an idea:
Out of the top posters, Lemon was townread and a plausible protection target, given my call at EOD. You could say the same in return about me, but… Mist was apparently hesitant on my slot, there are extenuating factors for why I’d kill Mist, so it’s whatever.
Killing Zorvo would’ve been interesting, because I don’t feel like he’s been holding a lot of influence in the thread? He voted Wazza at EOD, which didn’t really gain traction… killing Zorvo would only really make Wazza look bad, but the same general group of players would keep control over the thread.

@Wazza

It’s in this, you bring up mentioning killing Zorvo to make me look bad.

I don’t get it, I just don’t understand why. Zorvo pointed something along these lines as well, this post just feels out of place

@Magnus

Killing Zorvo would make you look bad because he voted you instead of the leading wagons EOD1, and lacked other scumreads which could explain his departure.

@Zorvo

Magnus did you respond to this?
If anyone seen a response to this please let me know post number as I must have missed it!

Now of course that may seem out why I am not voting Zorvo at this moment, but I am on Gorta that he seems partnered with Zorvo however. The reasons are probably too simple edgy, if you catch my drift.

[Frostwolf103]

Ah yeah I forgot about Neon, shit.

[Lemonfairy]

@Frostwolf103

Saying hi, let’s just say you’re Null as well at this time being.

I’m the top poster (lame) but I’m null?

@Frostwolf103

Wazza have interesting view about Lissi which I find it agreeable despite her low count posts

@Frostwolf103

And went back on D2 where she started, I respect her position atm.

so Wazza’s SR on Lissi made you TR Wazza?
do you agree with it? you said it was agreeable but you have Lissi as null

@Frostwolf103

Now of course that may seem out why I am not voting Zorvo at this moment, but I am on Gorta that he seems partnered with Zorvo however. The reasons are probably too simple edgy, if you catch my drift.

???
where did this come from and how did you scumread Zorvo from those posts?

[Frostwolf103]

@Neon

Why keep you alive today?

Good question, I wouldn’t exaggerate that not keeping me alive right now may actually improve town’s chances with one more mis-exe of two total instead of one, which the scum can easily have thread control in theory,

However I am trying to show I am no wolf in these worlds you considered.

@Lemonfairy

so Wazza’s SR on Lissi made you TR Wazza?
do you agree with it? you said it was agreeable but you have Lissi as null

That’s hardly proof I got with this, yeah that’s why I am not 100% on board Lissi is wolf yet.

@Lemonfairy

I’m the top poster (lame) but I’m null?

My interaction with you is one of main reasons, I haven’t interacted with you D1 that much haven’t I?

@Lemonfairy

where did this come from and how did you scumread Zorvo from those posts?

Oh brother, I hope that wallpost of mine on D2 I make an barely attached case on Zorvo.

[Frostwolf103]

Makes you wonder why I don’t work in office.

[Frostwolf103]

This also means I probably have to hit my bed real hard and come back tomorrow.

[Lemonfairy]

@Frostwolf103

which the scum can easily have thread control in theory

do you really think scum had thread control D1?

@Frostwolf103

That’s hardly proof I got with this, yeah that’s why I am not 100% on board Lissi is wolf yet.

I don’t like how you worded this
it’s like you already decided Lissi is wolf but you just need more convincing

I don’t think this come from a towny solvy mindset

@Frostwolf103

My interaction with you is one of main reasons, I haven’t interacted with you D1 that much haven’t I?

I don’t really think we need to directly interact to read each other
usually I want to interact with people who I find it difficult to read so interactions make reads easier, but they’re not necessary to make reads

@Frostwolf103

Oh brother, I hope that wallpost of mine on D2 I make an barely attached case on Zorvo.

I still need to read those
tbh I kind of skimmed them but nothing stood out to me

[Lemonfairy]

I’m also kind of curious why you buffed up some of your posts ISOing people with posts from others that are kind of irrelevant, e.g., for your Gorta wall above, you include some posts of mine which I think are just… very useless and not a great source of content that would help to read Gorta either way

[Lemonfairy]

(I guess that might be a playstyle difference though)

[Lemonfairy]

I do remember in a mash like over a year ago, you also made wallposts but I found your posts there to be towny (don’t remember much of it though)

could you link your most recent town and scum game for me to just take a quick glance at? @Frostwolf103