Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[Magnus]

@Host_Account_3

Eliza, you are The Lying Darkness

Weird, but… Eliza’s rolecard didn’t have a wincon, it only said this:

@Host_Account_3

If he wins the game, he will be able to create a copy of himself (a shadow) which serves as a second Nothing.

So it’s functionally Town in every way, I think. Compare to your rolecard:

@Host_Account_3

Frostwolf, you are Joakim (Joat Executioner) [Neutral]

Which specifies neutral.

@Host_Account_3

Joakim’s goal is to take over the town. He wants to win by being the last one standing. There may be other ways to achieve victory as well, if you’re clever enough.

So case in point: Eliza was Town. I think.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

Wolf claim. I softed innocent child D1.
What made you drop me from your townreads? Because it seemed like a bad argument?

Your so-called Upick ‘wolf’ volume on me that’s shared by Wind that’s absolutely bullshit

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

So case in point: Eliza was Town. I think.

I mean, that’s weird but yea.

[Frostwolf103]

@Frostwolf103

Your so-called Upick ‘wolf’ volume on me that’s shared by Wind that’s absolutely bullshit

The problem, Magnus. Is that only you can view it.

[Frostwolf103]

And not related to this game.

[Lemonfairy]

@Frostwolf103

I tell you something about this chat: It’s wrong. Like very wrong.

what is wrong exactly?
are you saying consensus reads in thread rn are wrong?

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

@Frostwolf103

Your so-called Upick ‘wolf’ volume on me that’s shared by Wind that’s absolutely bullshit

The problem, Magnus. Is that only you can view it.

You’re actually discounting the meta, geez.

@Magnus

Frost was acting strange in isolation, his pushes looked like they were possibly in bad faith, but neither his interactions with Whysper and Marluna look paired and he’s in his town meta. From what I’ve heard, he tends to lurk or lowpost as Mafia. Maybe I’ve taken a step back in this thread, but I have been more active than you’re currently saying.

[Lemonfairy]

wait, @Frostwolf103 if Magnus is being misleading about your volume tell and you’re town, then what would be scum!Magnus’ motivation for making you out to be townier here?

[Magnus]

An immediate answer came to mind, but I want to see Frost’s response first.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

You’re actually discounting the meta, geez.

The excuse on D2 I didnt appear SoD2 is sleep and lots of outside world up to near end of first half

[Lemonfairy]

@Magnus

Lemon survived a pretty long time in them both

I hate surviving for a long time

also, why are you getting asked to link my games instead of me?
you don’t need to answer that, I just found it weird

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

The excuse on D2 I didnt appear SoD2 is sleep and lots of outside world up to near end of first half

I don’t see how that’s relevant to what I’m talking about right here. I’m saying your scumgame in AI Upick falls outside your volume tell, and so does your gameplay here, but you’re playing closely to how you did in AI Upick. That’s the gist of it.

@Lemonfairy

also, why are you getting asked to link my games instead of me?

That question was directed at Frost, I just jumped in.

[Magnus]

I don’t wanna die.

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

wait, @Frostwolf103 if Magnus is being misleading about your volume tell and you’re town, then what would be scum!Magnus’ motivation for making you out to be townier here?

That’s how manipulative mafia does, trying to gain trust on townies and backstab them later.

For me, I have hard time to make a frigging case on someone I am not that good in social reads.

I already hate D2 play on this game because I get shat on when I try to at least want to solve a slot.

But the answer is so I can actually do content? Why.

[Frostwolf103]

I am likely going to be executed one hour and half, am I just the only one who shouldnt have started with wallpost making a case on Zorvo?

Am I just get cucked because I EoD hammered on Ashlyn while yes I haven’t interacted with her and that’s why I want to change, but I am getting stopped, asked a question why I keep contradicting so much.

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

That’s how manipulative mafia does, trying to gain trust on townies and backstab them later.

This wasn’t my answer.

@Lemonfairy

wait, @Frostwolf103 if Magnus is being misleading about your volume tell and you’re town, then what would be scum!Magnus’ motivation for making you out to be townier here?

Here’s my answer: to leave a backdoor after Frost flips Town, which he would be if I was Mafia because I don’t like to buss. “I didn’t direct this push, I pointed out a towny indicator, so I’m good”, yada yada.

Yada yada, yada yada, yada yada. I say that a lot, don’t I?

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

also, why are you getting asked to link my games instead of me?

Huh? Who asked Magnus about linking your games?

[Lemonfairy]

@Magnus

Frost’s own posts indicate he’s a wolf, as Neon said. If Frost’s evil, the other Mafia members probably aren’t trying to save him, either bussing or distancing. If Frost was Town, evils would be happy to let this wagon go through, and that would hopefully be made clear in the thread? It might feel “too easy”.

yeah, it does feel like there’s little resistance and I’m slightly wavering wrt the volume tell thing
tbh Frost’s more recent posts have not swung me toward them being town by much - first, because our reads are very different and we’re not vibing (pls don’t use this against me in the future) and second, because a lot of it feels like ATE

@Magnus

I refuse your legacy bait, forget all my reads when I drop dead.

I wasn’t baiting you to leave a legacy, I just want your reads

@Magnus

I mean, a team consisting of Magnus/Neon/Zorvo is uncatchable for the first couple days. You’d need to wait until random people die, although in a game with so many power roles…

hopefully I die before then so I won’t have to bother

[Frostwolf103]

@Lemonfairy

@Magnus

and that would hopefully be made clear in the thread? It might feel “too easy”.

I mentioned that on my own post as well.

[Lemonfairy]

I have no idea tbh
think it was Lissi?

but why would Lissi need my meta?