Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 4 - Town Wins

[FPSers]

@FPSers

katze eyes only

are you trying to annoy people into being scummy
because it feels like youre trying to annoy people into being scummy

@FPSers

this is terrible
ive told you multiple times i know you well enough to snow you and we’ve literally proved it
where’s your usual omnipresent paranoia? stares

-a

@FPSers

@TeamSlightlyPolish

although the second one doesn’t really seem like an instance of that since you say (seemingly jokingly?) that you’re sheeping them, and thus had clearly already seen their post before you posted it

Well, perhaps not to you
But I’m arguing that they’re town
It’s not quite communicative, but they I had the thought and then they posted it before me, which means more to me than if the posts had been switched, yk yk?

@FPSers

i mean
my thought on this is that
even if litten tries to coach eli, does eli… do anything different?
ive tried coaching eli before
its like coaching a fish to win a marathon
(still luv ya tho eli )
-a

@FPSers

Realistically
My head is
unbearably empty regarding wind
Like
She sure is posting words mhm uh huh
I don’t think a single one of them has meant anything to me

@FPSers

Well
Maybe u should?
Like it’s cool that you’re aloof and all but like
If you’re not making reads on me and don’t care how I read you I feel like this is going to get stale very quickly and makes it seem like you’re not actually in thread to interact, but to instead just “be here”

@FPSers

@cat

nah chloe that reply is definitely >rand w lmao

my kneejerk response to this tells me im getting confbiased and should end this here
(for posterities’ sake, the thought was “katze acknowledging it publicly instead of just saying it to chloe in dms might mean they’re trying to pocket me by appealing to my obsessive desire to be praised”)

@FPSers

idk
tbh i really dont know
if this is gth youll have to shoot me because i think that a few people have been kiiiinda wolfy
nobodies been lock-wolfy
like ive voteparked on orangrete but thats really only because nobody else has been worse
like
my head is far too empty on wazzawind and the great birdsbee and thats most of my hesitance there
not that theyve been wolfy
but they havent been towny
and just idfk on ruby/drinks like ive genuinely got no clue there

-a

@FPSers

engineer slot had a single incredibly terrible post that I saw while reading up
but it was near the start of my read up and I’m on mobile so no chance that I remember where it is
ftr, I’m assuming the Chloe thing was “Aelin always gets paranoid whenever we rand town together and finds me town then second-guesses herself” a la Shortnite 2 which
well
it was a thing
but as the day has gone on they’ve steadily declined in… stuff , and also Chloe in particular’s interactions with the polish slot have felt entirely like “here, have an olive branch, friend”… over and over, multiple times, and I dislike it more each time it’s repeated
Seeing Arete’s big readpost
You say my slot is trending up, but as far as I’m aware we were never “down”
If this is wrong feel free to correct me but you seem to be making it out to be like it’s a Herculean effort on your part to even townlean my slot
For example, I noticed while reading up, you had a near identical thought as me on Wind on how the worst thing about her at the moment isn’t that she’s being scummy, but that she’s not being towny
Like
If someone had such a nuanced thought exactly the same as I did before I had it I’d probably townread them for it but as far as I can tell you didn’t even acknowledge it
Speaking of which
Felt like wind was shading me somewhere whilst reading up but I can’t remember where, and I think I had something to reply to her but I can’t remember what

-a

@FPSers

@HoodHeroes

I feel like Aelin has interacted with everyone and she still doesn’t have a read on me

But yeah I understand what you’re saying
-ww

Ah
Here’s what felt like shading, found it
I had a read on you and gave it
You’re not being scummy, but you’re not being towny
And usually you’re good at being towny
Why are you not being towny

@FPSers

Also
You’re probably gone already wind, but no
There’s been one person who said they would only townread you if you obvtowned, and it was engineer, and it was their wolfiest post all day
But you deciding to go “everyone is ignoring me” which is objectively untrue, “multiple people have said that they will only think I’m town if I’m obvtown” which is objectively untrue, “since I’ve set foot in this thread all I’ve gotten is “Wind is wolfing”,” which is also objectively untrue as the entire thread bar one or two people was waiting for you to do stuff before reading you
Like
Ily
But this is bullshit

-a

@FPSers

@cat

what’s the fucking point of me doing this if you’re a villager and im a wolf

Same thing you (and by you, I mean Chloe) could’ve been doing to Arete which I noted earlier
Which is putting pressure on someone and then offering them an olive branch

-a

@FPSers

Because katze and Chloe are both strong players that I don’t have bountiful experience with
Katze in particular I haven’t played much with
And chloe I know has snowed me once or twice, and my head usually can get very fucky around her when she’s a villager
Saying I’m only reading them by results is incorrect, as I had a read on them yesterday

-a

@FPSers

i agree with brad that cat/tsp is v/w on some side
not w/w because they wouldnt keep the attention on each other like this while thread was empty
not v/v because
fuck if they are
mrrrrrrr
i dislike tsp still a bit more than cat but brad was literally like “we’re tunneling cat today” and im like “no” and then kat went

@cat

look brad

chloe thinks your slot is town, shes rly confident in it

i don’t really have a reason to disagree

im not good at wolfing, and you’ve historically had a great read on me and shielded me when we were v/v several times

don’t break the streak

and like
this post is probably mostly ironic
but
i hate this

@cat

look brad

chloe thinks your slot is town, shes rly confident in it

i don’t really have a reason to disagree

this wasnt relevant to anything at all and was
literally just a blatant attempt to go “we think youre towny, be happy”
and i hated it

-a

@FPSers

1. I have not been locked on killing you, however I am taking the results into heavy consideration. My starting townread was based off of things that have not been replicated since, and as I said multiple times throughout yesterday, my townread had been waning. In particular, there are a few things that feel like “granting olive branches” to people, such as Arete and Windward. It’s not like the fact that Hood, Melody, and Engineer flipped town is the only metric I’m reading you by.
2. I’m putting more focus on you because Brad dislikes your slot much more than he likes the TSP slot, and while my scumread on TSP is a bit more solid I still want to see if this has any merit.

-a

@FPSers

ok
im
at a bit of an impasse
a conundrum, if you will

LeafiabutWorse
FPSers
TeamSlightlyPolish
TheBirdsAndABee
cat
2Wolves1Hydra
idrc

this is everyone who is alive

obviously
i remove myself

then i have:

LBW
TSP
BAbby
Cat
literally only Kiiruma because I haven’t seen the other guy post as far as I can remember
Dumvee

LBW was somewhat towny yesterday
the biggest point in their favor is YBW hasn’t absolutely detonated on impact although he has somewhat disappeared from thread
Leafia feels like leafia
idk where im going with this but it feels like normal leafia, not dicey leafia
kinda

i believe ive already made my thoughts on TSP abundantly clear
however
their posting is? better? than yesterday
it feels more free-flowing and natural but it’s still not perfect

With Bird and Abby
well
fuck
i really haven’t interacted with them enough and they feel like they’ve just been on the edge of everything
like
never really fully interacting with things and kinda just evaporating away from blame
i dont like this slot, but brad does
i want both of them to post more, but particularly, abby

cat
i liked the early game but theyve steadily trended downwards
a part of me worries that its unjust paranoia since i
get a lot of paranoia on chloe
but brad and i agree here so idk if thats really a justifiable concern atp

i dont think cat/tsp is w/w mainly because theyve kept far too much attention on each other, especially now that the vig is dead
not as much need to bus when you cant just be button clicked

kiiruma?? was towny d1
but like
i cant remember why at all
today tho he feels like hes just way too zoned in on leafia
but his post about “you wont take this away from me” in regards to like
snapvoting n stuff
didnt quite seem genuine
idk if this is because he knows he wont actually snapvote or because hes scum tho
where tf is the other guy

idrc is just nonexistent
ive interacted with them once this game and if i didnt know better id say they were ignoring me
the main worry in my mind is that eevee would 100% just lowpost and let town implode as a wolf and that could very easily be what’s being done here

so here are my thoughts

T

FPS

LBW

Kii

Tro+Abby

idrc

cat
tsp

W

but
as noted above
cat and tsp most likely arent wolfing together
so

hrnng
like my options are, at this moment in time

Cat/Idrc
Cat/Birdsby
TSP/Idrc
TSP/Birdsby

however im not as confident as i should be or want to be on lbw and kii so i need to reread there

i had something i wanted to say but i forgot it
oh well
it was definitely important

-a

@FPSers

Since people are gonna bitch at me for reasoning
That’s exactly how I feel about tone reads
“It’s everywhere, it’s their ISO, yes, their entire iso, fym quote specific posts”

-a

@FPSers

i feel like kii and lbw are just off in their own la la land and i cant tell if its endearing or annoying
each of them says the other is lock wolf
wow
that sure is convenient and helpful
“you should vote them. im certain theyre a wolf.”
“no.”
“you’re a wolf.”

breathes in
breathes out
breathes in

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

-a

@FPSers

sure if you make like
an actual half decent case on kii
hell
fuck it
both of you make your best case on each other
not this “im certain theyre scum” shit
i dont care if youre certain because IM not certain your town
good reads dont win games
communicating good reads wins games
like
goddamn
yall been playing multiple games of fm at this point you know how this works

-a

@FPSers

If only I cared about what was important to you
Anyway
If you’re going to make the case get moving
If you need extra motivation
“Look I was right” has a lot more power when you flip a wolf, not when you didn’t manage shit

-a

@FPSers

hmmm
idrc has nothing in their iso that makes me go “this isn’t a wolf”
they spend a lot of time on “what mafia would probably be doing here” and not giving many detailed reads of their own
additionally
they seem to ask people about their reads and then
entirely ignore the responses, providing no meaningful content

mrrr
see
on one hand i dislike this because i mentioned this to brad but
my thoughts were that “cat/tsp needs to be resolved today, because if it’s w/v like i think then keeping it alive allows scum to kill a different strong, townread player, probably us, and then endgame is some formation of thebirdsandabee, cat and tsp who are locking onto each other, pkr and leafia who are locking onto each other, and idrc, which sounds absolutely fucked”, and it also destabilizes any hint of a towncore because you cant trust either of cat/tsp and id be dead
i also said “if theres anyone who tries to deviate strongly from cat/tsp, theyre probably a wolf going for exactly the above situation”
the issue there is kii and lbw have been going at it since yesterday
but
uh

@cat

what if i

/vote idrc @Sensei

this

-a

@FPSers

Except I’ve been actively trying to make kiiruma and lbw… not murder each other? Cause I’m townreading both? And actively promoting the dome between you and tsp?
Like
If you want to argue that I’m a wolf with someone OUTSIDE of you/tsp, that’s something entirely different
But
Just
No

@FPSers

Soren and Abby have been towny
Felix has not

@FPSers

ive sufficiently calmed down before
i dont really know what to say other than that im now absolutely certain that cat/tsp/bee contains at least one wolf
like
im sorry
but thread consensus when i have genuinely been incredibly towny doesnt just disappear like that
someone’s actively squashing it

then also the entire bullshit with me “not being towny enough”
these arent all the posts that i think were towny
these are the posts where i think its obvious that i just
could not fake them
theres a variety of reasons
one is the thought flow
another is the emotional reactions

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

you can see why I was so worried when it looked like you were just leaving us on L-1

[cat]

dude im like fallin asleep

[Host_Account_2]

Votecount

Vote target	Voted by	Votes
TeamSlightlyPolish	FPSers	2/4
LeafiaButWorst	2wolves1hydra	1/4
FPSers	TeamSlightlyPolish, idrc	1/4
Not Voting	TheBirdsandABee, cat, LeafiaButWorse	3

(Passive aggressive comments about vcs is also very not appreciated for the record, we are doing all we can)

[cat]

maybe closer to EoD

would put them on L-1 and I don’t trust Other People to not realize the VC and hammer on catchup

[idrc]

not really the worse of things

[FPSers]

you have tsp as 2/4 with only 1 person on them and vice versa for fpsers
i appreciate you :headpat:

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

@Host_Account_2

(Passive aggressive comments about vcs is also very not appreciated for the record, we are doing all we can)

hey

I envy your guys’ ability to live a normal life instead of whatever the hell drug we’re all on

[idrc]

when is EoD time anyways

[FPSers]

1 hour 34 minutes

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

dum when was eevee last around

[idrc]

big no no for me

only goong to be here until 1 hour to eod

[idrc]

cant wait to get wagoned when im not here /s

[FPSers]

for y’all’s viewing pleasure btw

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

I’m looking but just quotes are bland as fuck

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

@TeamSlightlyPolish

did gh ever write that article because y’all need jesus

[cat]

i am no longer chilling and writing a legacy i am now head empty

this is not the time to be head empty !!!

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

I’m not through the whole thing but I am genuinely confused what I’m supposed to be getting from this

the top half is in no small part saying you have no relevant thoughts or giving weak reads on flipped town

the other half is interacting with cat which is obviously also not super helpful

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

@leafiabutworse

from Arete

[TeamSlightlyPolish]

look at aelin’s wall of quotes and see if you parse anything from it because I am not