Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 4 - Town Wins

[TheBirdsAndABee]

you’re reaching so hard that I’m shocked you haven’t pulled a muscle yet. if you have bothered to put any effort into genuinely reading our slot, you would have seen the contributions Abby has made even if she has not posted nearly as much.

-S

[LeafiabutWorse]

Or because the last wolf needed an obvious town dead and 21 was the best chouce because killing him would frame me as well. Why are you so certain that it had to be specifically to frame me and that being the sole reason he was killed?

[LeafiabutWorse]

I’ve been too busy reading other slots and being so confbiased on 21 didn’t help either honestly. I need to stop getting into deathtunnels like that.

[TheBirdsAndABee]

@LeafiabutWorse

Or because the last wolf needed an obvious town dead

I personally thought that if this was the main goal, myself or FPSers would have been the kill.

-S

[LeafiabutWorse]

Bird isn’t even close to being far villagery than me.

[cat]

like one of the things that had kat and i going “ewwwww” at tsp towards the beginning of the game was how slimy arete’s push on leafia felt
was like super nitpicky and overblowing small points and kinda encouraging bird to keep pushing there
which is uuuusually how scumrete pushes lhf

aret aret

@TeamSlightlyPolish

@LeafiabutWorse

honestly im just kinda waiting for leafia to make reads and I will just sheep those

this is lowkey making me reconsider my read on your hydra

idk how to ask this without sounding insulting but how much experience do you have with Leafia?

@TeamSlightlyPolish

I was originally leaning town on LBW because Leafia was not, like, blatantly speaking from a place of obvious TMI (obviously pending flips) (ftr this is more nuanced than just ‘she has reads I disagree with’) but then YBW made a post about how his plan was to just sheep Leafia and, I don’t know how to say this without sounding really insulting, I think most people would not regard Leafia as accurate enough to just sheep her reads (also then he didn’t answer my question about it)

@TeamSlightlyPolish

/vote LeafiaButWorse @Sensei

@TeamSlightlyPolish

confidence in Trochi v rising

the dude is obviously super excited to use the tells I pointed out to him

@TeamSlightlyPolish

ye

like after ROR I was like ‘here is a tell’ and then Leafia makes that post and I click back and I’m like ‘oh my god she did that one tell I was telling Trochi about’ and then you were like ‘SHE DID THE TELL’ and I was like

‘yeah’

‘this dude just wants to Find Wolves’

idk if I’m explaining that well

@TeamSlightlyPolish

Yep

Like I already mentioned earlier I think that YBW talking about how he wants to sheep you is weird and sketchy

but I actually voted you for this post:

@LeafiabutWorse

Please explain this vote.

which was–

so villagers don’t never make this sort of post, like, obviously ‘wanting explanations for reads’ is a thing plenty of people want as V

but there’s a specific style of Salty Wolf Post where they’re like, obviously salty about the fact that someone is voting them without a good reason, and trying to maintain the high ground about how the person voting them didn’t even explain it, how dare they vote without a reasoning

(Trochi did it in ROR, Wazza did it in Sorc17)

and the tone of the post is very much Doing That Thing

…I think I explained this better when I was trying to explain it to Trochi

@TeamSlightlyPolish

wanting reasons isn’t inherently wolfy but the way one expresses wanting-reasons can be

like quoting a post voting you and saying ‘explain ’ isn’t wolfy but quoting a post that’s voting you and being like ‘can we normalize saying your reason for voting people on this site :/’ is incredibly wolfy

yours was obviously not to the far latter-end of the spectrum but it was not great and your subsequent posts have been getting worse

@TeamSlightlyPolish

Okay so I’m not caught up but I scrolled to the bottom and this is weird as fuck – PKR’s accusation here against Leafia is factually wrong (he is saying she never pushed me, including not voting me, when she did vote me), and instead of pointing that out, Leafia just was like ‘oh that’s just how I play as town’

according to Eli from M451 responding to false accusations against you by trying to defend behavior you didn’t actually do is a wolf tell and I basically buy that, I’m just not sure what it means for Kii

• Arete

@TeamSlightlyPolish

brain noises: ‘if Leafia is a wolf then Kii is probably a wolf for having good reads’

me: ‘that’s dumb and also really mean’

brain: ‘ok but it doesn’t matter if it’s mean it matters if it’s true’

^ this chain is weh and potentially partnered tho

@TeamSlightlyPolish

people have been sussing me all game and that hasn’t made me somehow forget what my reads are

^ reply to leafia

@TeamSlightlyPolish

ok but like I’m pretty sure that regardless of skill level forgetting what your reads were or who a specific post that you made was about, when the read/post was in the same day phase, isn’t a normal thing to do

if I’m typicalminding here someone please tell me

@TeamSlightlyPolish

Multiple people told me that they regularly forget a bunch of their reads as town within less than a day phase so I guess that really is a thing that happens and isn’t necessarily scum-AI for Leafia but I still think my other points against that slot are sound, I also feel that there’s been a weird amount of resistance to voting out that slot for reasons that are really questionable. Also despite YBW saying that he was going to sheep Leafia their reads don’t really feel like they’ve actually talked to each other about them, like not just ‘they disagree,’ but like ‘they haven’t talked to each other about where they disagree.’

orange isn’t a bussingboi and tends to defend partners n keep em off the block iirc (just asked kat and she said he usually does do this, yes)

and like his reasons to townread the slot are… basically nonexistent lol its just “i always find leafia v when shes v”

oranj

@TeamSlightlyPolish

YWB/Leafia - I literally have no memory of ever seeing a YBW game, but from what I’ve read of Leafia’s posts they seem much better than I’d expect from scum!her and much more in line with a WCFM or whatever that other game was where I saw her get blasted by a bunch of town

@TeamSlightlyPolish

Leafia is literally always weird as fuck

Despite this, I have always been able to call when she’ll flip town (usually after getting CC’d by several town, pretty sure that’s happened at least twice) and I think this is that

So

this is all based on D1 stuff since they weren’t in any danger rly thus far less likely to care about antispew

also disclaimer that i’m historically bad at association reads like this but yeah this is one of the reasons i’m torn lmfao

[TheBirdsAndABee]

I’m sorry, are you blind or are you scum?

-S

[LeafiabutWorse]

You weren’t and still aren’t, an obvious town. FPS was an option though.

[TheBirdsAndABee]

you are entitled to your own opinions, even if they are ultimately incorrect.

-S

[LeafiabutWorse]

I think it makes it obvious that I’m a villager here.

[LeafiabutWorse]

Opinions can’t be incorrect and I’m neither blind nor a wolf.

[FPSers]

@LeafiabutWorse

Opinions can’t be incorrect

if i say “in my opinion the earth is flat” then that opinion is incorrect

-a

[cat]

ngl im not rly gunna not take this into consideration since i always always think too hard about spew and end up making myself believe things that aren’t true so i’ll leave that part to my sis

was mostly just pointing it out cuz its kinda funny how opposite they were
arete was like “MURDER”
and orange was like “nah”

[TheBirdsAndABee]

you have been blind to our slot before, in moison. we were out of our scumrange there, and even far more so here. I do realize that you’re at least one of the two options though- and that arguing in circles will be pointless.

-S

[LeafiabutWorse]

That can’t be an opinion.

[FPSers]

im staring at this sentence but simply can not comprehend it
which is quite impressive in and of itself

-a

[cat]

oh i forgot to remind you all that im gay

[LeafiabutWorse]

Even in eotlds where you’re a villager, there’s cat as well.

[TheBirdsAndABee]

@LeafiabutWorse

Even in eotlds where you’re a villager, there’s cat as well.

I do not understand this sentence.

[LeafiabutWorse]

Because it’s a fact that the world isn’t flat. An opinion is how you feel about something. It’s affected by perception.