I thought Trochi asking me about our âhow to get yourself to be widely townread when youâre townâ conversation and them trying to get it out of me was towny. Plus I understood why they were asking it seeing as how I was taking a backseat for most of the opening of the game.
i just wanna leave the thread but it keeps dragging me back
arete what do you think about
this
mostly what it means for trochis alignment but i mean, i asume youll insert a comment about what it means for mine
and ur read on me is bad so :^)
i mean this is why i removed him from obvtown myself but i think u overestimate how much this actually matters now that ive Actually Tried To Coach People In Hydra Games(@disquieted@smartbomb@makeafuckingforumaccountyoucutie)
i mean
my thought on this is that
even if litten tries to coach eli, does eli⌠do anything different?
ive tried coaching eli before
its like coaching a fish to win a marathon
(still luv ya tho eli )
-a
theyâre better than fake Laicalasse notes but I wasnât actually trying to make my Laicalasse notes very good, I figured that people would just be like âoh you wrote handwritten notes? youâre townâ and I was genuinely writing them without the ability to backread
my model of wolf!Eli is that he just doesnât know how to make fake content like at all
my current model of wolf!Disquieted is that she could, in theory, but the necessary amount of effort would be tantamount to setting a piece of her soul on fire, and even then it wouldnât burn nearly as bright as she does as a villager, and at some point years ago she started hesitating a moment too long before throwing herself into the flames (this metaphor stopped making sense halfway through but itâs pretty so Iâm keeping it)
(also village Disquieted is incredibly villagery and incredibly effortful, whereas the bar for Eli is much lower, if Disq had posted posts of Eliâs caliber and volume we would have been like âso obviously Disq is a wolfâ)
its mostly the like⌠self conversations that look villagery in a vacuum that i think smarter wolves are more likely to fake because people buy the SoC bullshit (tbh it is how i think as town too so it works doubly well for me)
as such i should townread it from trochi
fair enough but when im spam dming disq âBITCH LITERALLY JUST POST LOOK AT MY TERRIBLE POSTS PEOPLE ARE TOWNREADING JUST POST THINGSâ and she goes âweh wolfing is hard and evil and i am literally shakikng and cryingâ when pregame i told her that if she randed wolf id prob boss her around and she seemed willing to try its like
i feel like some players kinda just self destruct when they see the red card
and while eli isnt disq the experience made me seriously doubt how much a lesser wolf can overperform with a single game of live coaching
skimmed your fake notes, saw a couple of obviously super wolfy things but idk if Iâd have caught them in game, stopped reading on the grounds of Too Many Words
regardless I think that self-conversations are less likely to be AI in any direction from Trochi for the obvious reason
yeah idk I mean Iâve definitely had games where Iâm like âI will literally write your posts for you just get in the threadâ and theyâre like âbut what if instead I donât post thoughâ but as far as I know thatâs not Eliâs problem
like in Corrupt Votes his postcount on day 1 was fine (and threw me!) his posts just ⌠did not have reads