Ice Cream Mafia - Day 2 (12/14)

I recommend Chomps.

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Also, if you guys all trust me to be town, I can use Strawberry so we get 5 votes total instead of 4, so less chance for a tie? Iā€™m also fine with Zone and Leafia using Strawberry instead of me. I think 1 strawberry 3 chocolates is good

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Iā€™m not altogether sure what logic you think Iā€™m saying, but Iā€™ll take your word for it for the sake of not inciting needless infighting.

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This is a micro optimization. Itā€™s not a big deal if people donā€™t trust the use of a strawberry, we donā€™t have to do it then

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Good idea. Iā€™m fine with any of the three using strawberry too.

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My choices would be the same: [Zone, Chomps, tutuu, Leafia].

I do pity the Town members outside this towncore though. We -us four; maybe five- are the group of Town that are the most likely to be Town, therefore we are the safest members to be Chocolates. However, this forces other Town members to stay as Vanilla. I donā€™t know. It feels unfair to me even though this is the most optimal route to progress and victory.

Likeā€¦ If we are going to stay as Chocolate all-game anyway, then we might as well become Strawberry, no? Itā€™s not as if anything would change if we are to tie the votes.

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I think keeping the vote counter at odd instead of even is better but this is just a hunch I think it might require like a mathematical analysis? We can do 3 strawberries 1 chocolate to keep it odd?

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I donā€™t think it matters which we do, but I think keeping the votes for protection odd is the best idea.

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I think this pity isnā€™t needed, if weā€™re serious about playing some competitive mafia on FoL - this is just business, itā€™s not personal that weā€™re excluding them. And people shouldnā€™t feel bad about it because we share the common goal of winning, weā€™re doing it to win. If a person were to feel upset that they get to click less buttons than others then they just arenā€™t cut out to play forum mafia at a ~somewhat~ competitive level, imo :stuck_out_tongue:

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Agreed.

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Okay, so, I think weā€™re in agreement for:

Tutuu, Leafia, Zone - Strawberry N2
Chomps - Chocolate N2
Everyone else - Vanilla N2

If anyone objects letā€™s hear it

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Iā€™m fine with that.

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Marluna was killed above everyone else for twofold reasons; she was the very first to callout Hippo for anything, namely obfuscating usefulness for anybody who wasnā€™t readily reading the thread altogether thoroughly, and also potentially as accord to Potatoā€™s perception of a townslip. The fact that others disagreed over this front swings in her favour as it means w!Potato couldā€™ve dropped it with all chances of everyone being the Neapolitan being relatively equal, whereas the alternative of an evil caring about v!Potatoā€™s judgment is less forgettable.

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Heading out for now as well. :sleepingleafeon:

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Maybe I was wrong to assume the wolves would strongman me N1 even if Iā€™m correct on childe. Maybe they need it for later? I have no idea how it is to play this from their PoVs. They always have an anti-cop tool. But maybe then they just donā€™t wanna deal with an immortal doctor? I dunno. I donā€™t see myself voting anyone but childe today barring something really large happening

I am confirmation biasing. But the fact that Hippo was wagon from start to finish with little resistance signals towards a wolf team that had no thread control. glares at childe

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The evil team killed Marluna. They werenā€™t looking for top poster kills they were looking for the Neapolitan without the field of players who were nonetheless townread. Itā€™s entirely plausible you werenā€™t considered as a nightkill at all.

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If Iā€™m right on childe I will kill it and thatā€™s 2/3rds of their wolf team gone. Idk

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(This message has a specific question which could be falsely construed as rolefishing. Iā€™m clarifying ahead that Iā€™m writing as if from a Mafiosoā€™s perspective, and not with the intent of having you answer it yourself.

Letā€™s say Childe was evil alongside whomever else, it doesnā€™t especially matter. Why would strongmanning you immediately innately save its slot? This isnā€™t to say town always follows legacies, but thereā€™d need to be some redeeming factor existing to make it worthwhile.
Does your continued existence pose more of a threat than if you die immediately, without a strongman remaining? If anything, Iā€™d argue the opposite; Childe is just a whatever scumread because you townread everybody who posts more by default, so itā€™s entirely reasonable for you to shift gears halfway through. Strongmanning you immediately just demonstrates fear if you were protected, which ā€” as explained yesterday ā€” is what an external observer would expect. As such, this is only worthwhile if evil believes you to be the Neapolitan; and for what itā€™s worth, I donā€™t think Childe would analyse this in depth individually. In which case we have an estimate of at least one evil profile being somebody who is willing to evaluate different slots comparatively.

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Lemme do that analysis then.

WCS 4C or 4S: 0X ā†’ [2x 2X] or [4x 1X]; 1X ā†’ [3x 1X]; 2X ā†’ [2x 1X].
WCS 3C1S: 0X ā†’ [2C/1S (&1C)]; 1C ā†’ [2C/1S]; 1S ā†’ [3x 1C]; 1C1S ā†’ [2x 1C].
WCS 2C2S: 0X ā†’ [2x 1C1S] or [2C/1S/1S]; 1C ā†’ [2x 1S (&1C)]; 1S ā†’ [2C/1S]; 2C/S ā†’ [2x 1S/C].
WCS 1C3S: 0X ā†’ [3x 1S (&1C)]; 1C ā†’ [3x 1S]; 1S ā†’ [2x 1S (&1C)]; 1C1S ā†’ [2x 1S].

ā€¦long story short: Think less about WCS and just trust in each other that we arenā€™t forming a tie.

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