Ice Cream Mafia - Night 1 (13/14)

[Marluna]

@Zone_Q11

I’d argue that Frost is the only one who has you in his POE.

I’m not talking about this game specifically.

Unless I am confirmed, I’m usually end up in the PoE as either alligment in most of my games.

[Frostwolf103]

@tutuu

Hippo felt cornered / scared to me, so I think he makes sense with Chomps

Mhm, I felt that when Hippo calls out Zone. Like a snare trap…

Chomps at one hand, is struggling to get reads across and currently pressured to do that.

[Leafia]

Possibly.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

also zone hasnt been towny

Please explain.

@Zone_Q11

@Hippopablompoyeetus

also zone hasnt been towny

Death sentence.

VOTE: Hippo

Lowkey saying that Zone/Hippo aren’t w/w here.

@tutuu

We can substitute Marluna for Zone in the chocolate list theres no issue

I can agree to this.

[Marluna]

Yes, you probably would do that.

[Frostwolf103]

@Zone_Q11

@Frostwolf103

I don’t trust Luna and jail in the list because they have negatives despite being town read, this does not mean I scumread either of these slots, rather these need more social pressure and leave it to flavor test cop.

I understand that you don’t want Luna and jail in the Chocolate list.

I understand that you want those two to be “looked into further” (preferably by the Neapolitan).

I understand what you mean by “Luna has a negative despite being townread.” (I disagree with the idea that this negative is enough reason to put her out of the list, but I can at least understand your thought process.)

What I don’t understand is: “What is jail’s negative?”

P#365 -

@Zone_Q11

@potatocat

@jail

threadstate is very good.

tinfoil of the day - there is only one wolf at most that has posted.

This is villagery imo.

Question: How?

@potatocat

they’re not already suspected they want to use their cred to suspect villagers. Jail wasnt suspected so there’s no reason for him to say the entire thread is villagery as a wolf imo. Unless he wants to secure townreads on his teammates. Maybe he could be a wolf with tutuu.

@Leafia

This suspicion is something that I’m finding to be villagery.

The words from potatocat and Leafia makes me believe they would have been more vocal about jail not belonging in chocolate list, so I decide to speak it from my words, it’s not I am withholding, though them two are in chocolate list themselves, I do trust their intuition whom I pick off small detail into my read, that jail should stay vanilla for now.

[Marluna]

@Frostwolf103

There are doubt casted in Luna regarding the opening posts

What? Where?
I misread the OP, and the only argument there was that misreading the OP is NAI (both from me and Leafia). How that shows doubt from any participant of that conversation?

[Frostwolf103]

Tutuu is willing to forgive and put you on chocoate list, he would be bit harsher and not let you go in that list.

Not able to vote in protecting is not a bad decision for your end, despite my early agreement on PoE list for taste test.

[Frostwolf103]

Unless of course the taste tester says otherwise with the result, I have a feeling that I am not willing to speak yet.

[Marluna]

@Frostwolf103

Tutuu is willing to forgive and put you on chocoate list

He has reasons as far as I can tell. (I see, where his read came from, I just don’t necessarily agree with it.)

[Leafia]

Going to head out for now too so talk to everyone more later.

[Zone_Q11]

@Marluna

@Zone_Q11

I’d argue that Frost is the only one who has you in his POE.

I’m not talking about this game specifically.

Unless I am confirmed, I’m usually end up in the PoE as either alligment in most of my games.

Ah, yeah. Fair enough.
(That sounds about right.)

@Frostwolf103

@Zone_Q11

What I don’t understand is: “What is jail’s negative?”

[…]

The words from potatocat and Leafia makes me believe they would have been more vocal about jail not belonging in chocolate list, so I decide to speak it from my words, it’s not I am withholding, though them two are in chocolate list themselves, I do trust their intuition whom I pick off small detail into my read, that jail should stay vanilla for now.

Okay, so if I understand this correctly: You think potatocat and Leafia are scumreading jail, but they are not being vocal about it?

(The more I attempt to understand this situation, the less I understand the situation. I should probably stop pursuing this matter.)

[tutuu]

Oh I townread her for her misunderstanding of the anti claim, not scumread her. My suggestion for the chocolate users was my top 5 townreads. I want as many wolves as possible in the vanillas so we have the highest chance for red check. Although a green check is like, fine too

[tutuu]

Sniping a red check on someone whos in the middle of everyones reads is like ideal imo

[tutuu]

I think that Marluna protesting the townread made on her is generally a town tell and I dont see a reason not to apply it to Marluna (if ive seen her fake that as wolf i wouldnt, but i havent seen her do it)

I also think that her wanting to be vanilla and being scared of being mischopped is very understandable. I can completely understand her mindset if shes town. If shes mafia she is being very sneaky about it, so props to her. I will choose to townread her

[tutuu]

So I dont really care if Marluna or Zone gets sent, I think theyre both town, neither of them wants it. This whole thing isnt a big deal imo

[Marluna]

@tutuu

I think that Marluna protesting the townread made on her is generally a town tell and I dont see a reason not to apply it to Marluna (if ive seen her fake that as wolf i wouldnt, but i havent seen her do it)

I’m pretty sure I would do that as either alligment. (the difference would probably the intensity and maybe my reasoning behind refusing the townread.)

[tutuu]

At least for Day 1 we have a few suspects and a few people under the radar, we have plenty of cop targets

For future days I would recommend trying to send the towniest people as chocolate to maximize chance for red peek, to me at least that feels like the most standard play you could try to do

[tutuu]

After the cop dies we can vote for the 2 towniest people each day, and designate one to use chocolate, one to use strawberry, everyone else vanilla. This way if they’re both town and they tie we still get the protection, if only one is town we get the protection, we’re only screwed if they’re both mafia. There might be other permutations of ice cream modes to send as people, I’m not sure, this just jumps to me as obvious

[tutuu]

@Leafia

@tutuu Do me next.

So, normally when I manage to read you well is either because you’re reckless with your claim and just claim it immediately in a Zone game with anti-claim, or when you find yourself mutually scumreading with one or multiple players and you’re top wagon and you’re about to get mischopped. In those situations I call you town and you’ve always been town to my memory. This isn’t happening here, you’ve been very level-headed. I’m catching up on the posts I’ve missed, but from what I’ve seen your takes are highly agreeable. You’re seeing the same things I’m seeing. That doesn’t necessarily make you town, I could be wrong on my reads and we could both be pushing wolf agenda, or I could be right and you could be a townsiding wolf. But for right now, if I trust in my reads, I think you’re playing as accurately as can be, so I have no reason to voice any suspicion on you. I think you doing what you’re currently doing is great for town

[tutuu]

I read the hydra’s ISO. I think they’re fine. I wouldn’t chop them today. I’m not like “shielding” them. I just think they’re fine.

You guys have to keep in mind Neil is a MUer, the way people talk about mafia on different sites can be different. And people can end up finding each other disagreeable due to “cultural” differences. I don’t think Neil’s stances are weird for a way a MUer plays mafia. I’m assuming Creature, if town, agrees, because I’m not seeing Creature jump at Neil’s throat