Ice Cream Mafia - Day 2 (12/14)

obligatory statement of i would not slank as a wolf i literally topposted my last two wolfgames

You made reply from Potatocatā€™s P#116

That leads to my conclusion for having to assume he (jail) should be actually not in list. I have no issue with Tutuu, no issue with you, no issue with Potatocat. Besides Marluna and jail I want to keep this as vanilla that hasnā€™t prove themselves blatantly town. Marlunaā€™s opening postsā€¦whilst resolvedā€¦still leave me sour taste in my mouth, Potatocat isnā€™t overtly positive with jail. At least I hope he will shed light on his comments if thatā€™s implied that way then we shall not put jail in this list.

If the cop isnā€™t going to check me then thereā€™s no point staying Vanilla. It doesnā€™t effect the game. So Iā€™m okay being Chocolate if the consensus is that the cop shouldnā€™t check me. But I prefer being able to be greenchecked if thereā€™s any chance of that happening.

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This slot is hereby considered as dead to me, but Hippo did the same thing first, so Iā€™m just going to focus on Hippo before tunneling ILP at D2.

In no context does it make sense for any Town to vote their townread. The only context where it could make sense if someone had re-evaled their reads, but clearly ILP didnā€™t do that. Neil in particular voted me purely to ā€œkeep things spicyā€.

It isnā€™t trying to grow a counterwagon, because otherwise it wouldā€™ve gone after Chomps, whom it has at the bottom of its reads. It is just trying to aggravate; it is an attention seeker who is saddened by the fact that they were no longer top wagon. (I am not buying the ā€œthank godā€ reaction.) It lost the reason to come back to the game, so it tried to make a new one by being contrarian.

At this point I realized it makes more sense for ILP to be Town-aligned than Mafia-aligned, in particular after tutuu said Willowā€™s inactivity likely implies ILP as Town. That will not change the fact that I will consider the slot no better than childeā€™s slot.

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cool

zzz you can kinda clearly see that im re-evaluating my read on you regardless, and i dont really get anything personally from voting chomps rn.

zzz above. Iā€™d really rather you refrain from belittling my slot tyvm. Especially given that if youā€™re openly stating ā€œI will tunnel these slotsā€ when I know I am town and I donā€™t know Hippoā€™s alignment, ity gives w!you an easy way out from taking accountability when I am an otherwise reasonable player in the game.

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See, the thing about ā€œyou wanting to be greencheckedā€ is: There are more people who think the same way. Now, from what I understand, the general consensus seems to trust you enough to put you on the Chocolate list, which means to say that we townread you enough to put you in a list of people that the Neapolitan should not check.

Long story short: Please become Chocolate. (Youā€™re not the only one whoā€™d rather stay as Vanilla. I am on the list as well.)

Speaking of people who ā€œwants to get checkedā€, Luna wished to get off the list to get checked, and after listening to her reasoning of ā€œshe should get checked early, because in most games she would get mis-executed otherwiseā€, I have decided to agree to take her place.

Currently the people on the Chocolate list are: tutuu, Zone, potatocat, jail, Leafia.

Frostwolf is still opposed to jail being in the list because he thinks you and Leafia suspected jail at some point in time. (Please resolve this matter.)

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Zone is an Innocent Child. Neil is very likely town. A cute cat picture to try to bring peace:

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Iā€™m struggling to read Frost. He take a while to rev up his engine. He becomes really obvious then. Difficult to read at the start. I suggest we leave him for a day or two, he should become obvious

tutuu
zone
potato
i_like_posts
marluna

leafia

frostwolf (give him a pass until D2-D3 imo)

jail
creature
childe
camilleon

magnus

chomps
hippo

I know. I said so in the last paragraph of this post. It wonā€™t change my stance towards ILP though.

I donā€™t need peace. I need pelts.
I crave the death of my enemies.

Me too, but I struggle to read him on two fronts; (1) his alignment, and (2) his sentences.

I agree that we should leave him be until a later day phase. (Gut says heā€™s Town-aligned though.)

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If Leafia is mafia then Iā€™m entirely wrong on my reads. Hippo isnā€™t mafia with her. That would make Hippo town. Not sure about Chomps. If she voted him then he might be town too. Scary to think about if sheā€™s mafia and Hippo and Chomps are both town. Iā€™m a bit clueless about the solve, then. I need some assistance from you guys in reading Leafia, I feel lack of confidence in reading her here

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i do not feel opposed really lmao

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Idk i had a conversation with leafia at sod and it seemed like she was much more willing to change her reads or improve them based off of advice which makes me think she isnt a wolf cuz i wouldve kinda expected more pushback imo

Obv unless like. Partner moment

Work

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If Leafia has fixed her polarized play style and perfected her Town-mask as Mafia, then Iā€™d say that that in itself warrants a reward of putting her into [the list of people the Neapolitan shouldnā€™t check].

Itā€™s not as if Leafia is guaranteed to stay in the Chocolate list anyway. If she were to slip up in the future, then we can just ask her to remove herself from the list so she could be checked on a future night.

For N1, there are more players who warrant more of the Neapolitanā€™s attention.

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Oh yeah I donā€™t think she should be a consideration for an execution or a peek for D1/N1. I just meant in general, sheā€™s a good wolf, I just randomly got paranoid that she would just beat us socially. Iā€™m just hoping that other people will manage to get a confident read on her as the game progresses to give me some reassurance. But if you guys arenā€™t paranoid thatā€™s fine too, you donā€™t have to be. I just like really wanna win, so I was thinking about what are the things that are likely gonna make me lose :stuck_out_tongue:

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Leafia in particular I think is kind of a ā€œvolatileā€ slot in the sense of that Iā€™m afraid of her endgaming as wolf, but Iā€™m also afraid of her getting mischopped as town. So I feel some kind of a responsibility to give a good read or a legacy on her, and I feel like I need to thread a bit more carefully about her than my strategy of ā€œhey everyone, bully Magnus until they towntellā€, for instance. I wouldnā€™t recommend ā€œbully Leafia until she towntellsā€

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Iā€™m not sure if this post makes a lot of sense

bully tutuu until he just cries

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