Ice Cream Mafia - Day 2 (12/14)

Also I would urge everyone to be a bit more confident in your ability to be townread (if you are town), and to not refuse the chocolate mode if people want to give it to you. Do you agree that the more wolves in the pool of vanillas, the better? Red peek better than green peek? If so, please try to think of yourself as … a unit in an RTS game. A drone, a probe, an SCV from Starcraft. At the start of the game, you send one worker to the enemy base to scout. This worker will often times die. It sacrifices itself for the colony, it gives scouting information. Even though for the worker it was personally uncomfortable to be put through that, its team benefitted the most out of that! If mafia was an RTS game, and you controlled each pawn individually, you would prioritize doing what you think is best for the entirety of the group, not for each individual pawn!!! :stuck_out_tongue:

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It makes sense to me.

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I think that there is no ceiling when it comes to achieving getting townread as town. It’s sooo much easier to be townread as town than as mafia. You just have to probe your brain. It’s a very interesting experience and activity. Just probe it as deep as you can. Be as honest and transparent as you can. Honest about everything. Your feelings, your instincts, anything you want. There are no rules, imo. More honest than socially acceptable in general conversations. I think that’s the fun of it. Squeezing every bit of feeling and thought you have from your brain and putting it out there for people to enjoy. It’s like you’re cooking them a warm and tasty meal

VOTE: chomps i forget does day end today or tmrw

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Tomorrow

ok
yay

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I pinged Potatocat for that matter.

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Being Chocolate doesn’t only make Town to think about choosing someone who they think is also Town: It makes them think about which Town is most likely going to be attacked by the Mafia.

“Who is Mafia’s greatest threat, if any?”
“Who is Town’s greatest pillar? Whose death will cripple Town’s activity?”
“Whose death would cause the most confusion among Town? Whose death could be used to push another player?”

…the saddest part is: In my experience as host, there are many instances where a Mafia member just randomly throw out a name, and the other members just silently agreed to it.

So whereas Town would internally have to take more effort in predicting the attack, the Mafia will probably just say: (A) “Kill X?”; (B) “Yeah, sure.”; (C) “Fine by me.”

Well duh. The more wolves in the pool of Vanillas, the higher the odds of Neapolitan finding them. (This is assuming Neapolitan checks a random player in the Vanilla pool though.)

Infinitely so. Greenchecks is the best consolidation prize, but redchecks lead to spew.

Speaking of checks, how do we plan to hide the actual Neapolitan’s checks at D2? Should we also claim redchecks, or should we only claim greenchecks as well?

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I think that this is a big part of why I love team-based PvP games, like forum mafia. I’ve played League for a long time, there is this RTS game called “beyond all reason” that i’ve played a ton, and I always played 8v8. I’m just so thrilled to be a part of the team, and do my part, and fight against an enemy team. I don’t enjoy team-based PvE games too much, or at all, I want to be a part of something bigger, and I want to compete against something else that is bigger, and see which one ends on top. I really love making contributions, I don’t want to be the entirety of what’s responsible (so like 1v1 games). Picking up slack, helping my teammates, them helping me out, competing against my peers - it just hits all the good spots in my brain

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You mean this?

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Oh yeah absolutely hahah

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I brought it up again just for good measure.

Leafia, please just tell me this quickly: Did you scumread jail in that post? Yes or no.

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Just because I found the suspicion villagery doesn’t mean that I’m wolfreading Jail. It just means I find the fact that they’re suspicious of him villagery because I think a wolf would be less likely to voice that suspicion.

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A full answer to this, I can only give outside of a game. My opinion, at least. Being too detailed in opinion might lead to spew. Bad spew. For us. Good spew for mafia.

I would just urge everyone to be careful and to not be blatant VT. Can’t ask for much more than that. I don’t think there are any “hard and fast” rules on how to go about providing cop cover. Just do what you think is right. A ton of things could be right. Ideally, the end result is that we get a mix of green peeks and red peeks. People don’t need to be apparent in their peeks. I think there is just so much “freestyle” that people can apply in playing it out that it’s impossible to cover, or give an accurate opinion on what’s “best”. Even if I think something is best, I’m sure somebody could make a play that trumps it and surprise me. I think there is no ceiling in how well town can play it out

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It’s less likely you would randomly guess correctly someone as red, and if you are wrong, it is blatantly obvious for mafia, that you aren’t the cop.

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probably giving out double results (one for red and one for green) might be a version as well. (but the hindsight, we wouldn’t able to tell which cop results are the truth after a cop death.

Opinion?

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I’ve never seen this happen. You are correct about the con. I’m not sure honestly. Very interesting thought. My first thought is that “if nobody does this then they probably have a reason not to do it”. But my second thought it “Well, why not?”. I don’t know hahah

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I think I have seen this suggested once or twice in semi-open setups.

But I don’t think the negative results would be bad. Once we eliminate one cop result as wrong, it is obvious the other one is correct. So it is always safe to go after a cop red in double results scenario (if we have enough time) I think.

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I’m not opposed to trying this out. What does everyone else think?

I’m fine with this as well.

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