Lol, lmao
I’mstill fine with that though
Gl
VOTE: Kanave
I feel like Kanave flips town but if it’s W pretend I never said that
Look at my shoes. Look at the fucking belt. I wear it because I am a badass, not because I’m some kind of gay icon.
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Final Day 1 Votecount
Kanave (7): Vulgard, Phraze, Leafia, Jackrito, lol, Jaiden, catbae
catbae (3): thepigeonnyc, Zorvo, beancat
Magnus (2): Kanave, mollylikesorigami
beancat (2): Achromatic, Marluna
mollylikesorigami (1): Magnus
Sleep (1): Marluxion
Not Voting (1): Demisha
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Kanave
Welcome to Kaguya-sama: Love is War Mafia, Kanave! You are Miko Iino, Mafia Goon.
“Besides, President is the one who brought the manga in! Instead of setting a good example for everyone, you’re undisciplined! Do better!”
Win Condition: You win when your team controls the execution, or when such control is inevitable.
Night 1 has begun.
The deadline is 2022-08-11T17:00:00Z.
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I have gotten sleep and feel better. Time to play mafia. Before solving, responding to EoD threads.
First: Marl, I was just sheeping catbae on beancat to see what happened.
Jaiden: So one of the ways I had to act differently than normal v achromatic last game was my defense of Leafia. I implicitly gaslit you last game as scum in order to defend her and I successfully won my game by establishing this line and keeping it through the game until the very end. Not to be unkind to Leafia, but she isn’t one that needs to be voted ASAP day one to be solved. I figured going into this game, pre-rand mind you, that your play around me would be enlightening to your alignment just on the basis of how you went about your process on me. The fact that you thought I would ever ‘miss’ this intention as either alignment is underestimating my perception.
Late into the day, through tired eyes, I thought perhaps your guise against me was just a leaning into expectations and you could be scum and so I voiced that suspicion. However, reviewing this game during my morning it became clear you are spewed clear by both the flipped wolf as well as my most likely scum suspects. (Spoilers)
As it relates to my claim/tired post where I stepped back for awhile, please don’t ever use emotions to read me. I don’t AtE as either alignment on principle, and any emotions I might have about the game will largely be NAI. If you thought I was scum before, don’t let me being in a bad mood stop you after. It would strip me of my dignity as a mafia player if the best defense I could muster for myself is the fact that I was just feeling burned out yesterday.
Finally, my partner has a rare afternoon off and I am going to be spending a lot of today (calendar not game wise) with her. I’ll probably pop in more in the evening, but otherwise just make sure to notify me in some way if you have questions, concerns, or cool anime gifs to show me. Otherwise I might miss it until I can do a full read through.
I think that’s all I want to say about me, so let’s get solving.
Player list:
beancat
lol
Vulgard
Jackrito
Zorvo
Magnus
Leafia
Jaiden
catbae
mollylikesorigami
thepigeonnyc
Marluxion
Phraze
Demisha
Marluna
I need to find 12 town members to join me, let me see…
Let’s start with Leafia, Phraze, and Vulgard for masonry/Murdering a Scum reasons. 9 to go.
Kanave ISO Day 1
It’s wrong of me, but I kind of want to clear Jaiden just based off of this alone lol
It’s wrong of me, but I kind of want to clear Demisha just based off of this alone lol
I will however say this legitimately doesn’t feel aligned for Demisha
Unaligned points for Magnus
Unaligned points for Zorvo
Unaligned points for Catbae
More unaligned points for Catbae
Feels out of place for Kanave to go after Jaiden’s push on Leafia if they are aligned. You would want to just leave that alone if she is your buddy.
If this is aligned this is excellent theater, but for now I’ll just go town on Jaiden.
Hm. This is a weird post to make about your scum mate in Demisha. Not entirely impossible, but lean unaligned.
Jaiden town part two the remix.
Jaiden town part three
A null read for Molly huh. Noted.
4 it is, thanks Kanave
That’s it from Kanave. Not much there. Jaiden gets added to the town pile with Catbae, Zorvo, Magnus, and Demisha get a healthy chunk of town equity. Not a lot here, but it’s something.
There were three people (unless I missed something) that kanave didn’t name. I think I can safely eliminate the scum team of Marluna/Marl/Beancat unless Kanave had herself a fun day one completely ignoring her scum team. Additionally what stuck out to me was that she expressed a null read of Molly which feels slightly partnered considering she took so many other light stances about others, so that could be something.
Moving onto the wagons:
Kanave (7): Vulgard, Phraze, Leafia, Jackrito, lol, Jaiden, catbae
catbae (3): thepigeonnyc, Zorvo, beancat
Magnus (2): Kanave, mollylikesorigami
beancat (2): Achromatic, Marluna
mollylikesorigami (1): Magnus
Sleep (1): Marluxion
Not Voting (1): Demisha
So I am not going to overthink this and just give Magnus a town read that I won’t bother to re-evaluate before LYLO even without any further information. It’s just incredibly rare that scum bus scum all day like this. In addition to the first three people on Kanave already being cleared town, I am extending that to Jackrito who voted early enough when the wagon needed help to be boosted above the fray and ensure it kept momentum.
So the interesting thing about this end of day is there wasn’t a lot of movement anywhere aside from Beancat or to Kanave, however what is missing from the final count is that Jaiden/lol/marluna were trying to stir up an Achromatic wagon that was opposing the scum goon wagon. Jaiden is clear, however this puts a spotlight on Marluna and lol for opposing a late wagon on scum. However, I don’t think they can be aligned together and here is why.
After they left their vote on me, marluna joined me on beancat and lol went to Kanave. Now if beancat is mafia and is power this ironically looks worse for them because even though they were agreeing to kill mafia it was in favor of a quickly building scum power lynch. On the other hand, if Beancat is town lol will look better for going with the scum lynch (although not cleared, because it is possible for a player who has played over 500 games to do quick calculus and make a bus decision) whereas now Marluna will have joined two town wagons over opting to pick sides at EoD when asked to earlier. So at most there is, from my vantage, 1 scum in the three people who voted me and there’s space to believe it’s 0.
If Beancat is scum catbae is 100% locktown. Marluna looks better as well for trying to make that wagon a thing.
My next town clear is going to be marl. There are 0 marl worlds where instead of pushing (assumed) idle town achromatic marl just votes sleep and let kanave go over there. That’s not a thing. I won’t bother going into more detail here, but if he is ever pushed seriously for whatever reason just review end of day one and realize you’re wrong.
Then after that for similar reasons we have catbae who argued against my wagon when he could have easily switched it up and agreed my post was fake and probably successfully have swayed others and saved kanave. Letting kanave go down there was beyond needless as scum. Oh and I just noticed before I voted beancat they were helping to solidify the kanave train so all the better for them. Not a lock just because I think this bus on a mafia goon is possible, but good enough for now.
So now I am down to this poe with these assumptions in mind:
Zorvo
Demisha
Marluna (Not mentioned)
Beancat (not mentioned)
Molly
Lol
Pigeon
So now that I got it down to 3 scum in 7 suspects I can now take content into account for the first time outside of the kanave iso and end of day wagonomics.
lol iso
Feels unaligned
Not an alignment check because lol isn’t me but this was my evil plot in morb.
There is also a lazy push on pigeon that vul tried to probe about unsuccessfully. This isn’t aligned and also if pigeon is town looks terrible for lol, but on the flipside is clearing if pigeon is a wolf.
I think I believe this is genuine, oft unaligned. Which is now interesting because in my poe I have lol unaligned with 3 of the 6 others
So at this juncture the team is molly/lol/zorvo/beancat if lol is scum AND if I am accurate otherwise.
Likes molly.
Thinks Magnus is ok as well
… team is just molly beancat lol or lol is town? Huh. Well this slot is going to be easy to sort given we have power roles this game.
If this is aligned I just appreciate lol so much as a mafia player haha. This ain’t it.
He was defending me from marl a little bit before voting me. Hrm. That feels oddly town because if you wanted to set me up in advance you just do it I think. Although maybe scum lol is audacious.
Valid poe to have tbh. I like this.
I think lol has officially run out of viable scum partners or is just audacious as all get out with said partners.
Lol doesn’t really know my stance on AtE and the marl partnership thought I’d clearly unhinged town imo. I think given the lack of viable partners in my poe along with their takes being ok all told I am fine putting lol at a strong town lean. Not quite clear but certainly a lot of compelling evidence to suggesting town.
Oh. I missed this. Fair play by lol here. I would have voted me too. I think this is never anything less than a decent townlean and I am probably being conservative here just because I don’t know lol or their wolf range, but they come off feeling genuine and just doing their thing.
Zorvo
Demisha
Marluna (Not mentioned)
Beancat (not mentioned)
Molly
Pigeon
Molly had 40 posts. Let’s iso her next.
Infamous good until marl rethought it post. I feel like the last sentence is self aware and not sure of my take away.
Kanave and molly both going after jaiden early. Noted.
Calls poe member obv town. I wonder if zorvo is mafia kp lol
So molly attacks Magnus and vul, two town reads. Defends me and zorvo. I think pairing for zorvo/molly can go either way here. Either pocketing zorvo or the point of this big post was to hide that she was attacking vul to protect zorvo in a weird rule of 3 between Magnus myself and zorvo.
Bad look for Molly regardless given current reads though.
Pocketing zorvo, wolf kp. Pocketing zorvo, wolf kp. Choices.
Vul won this won sorry molly lol
This and the follow up made me feel ok about molly but it could be a pocket attempt.
More Magnus attacks
Likes demisha
We shall see
Iirc this was a sheep of me on town. Meh
Worse than lol for sure. No attacks on anyone in my poe I believe. Scum lean for now. Don’t believe they mentioned kanave once.
Marluna next
I keep asking myself if zorvo is scum kp and that’s probably a bad sign for zorvo here. Like, this is now two possible partners that feel invested in leaving zorvo alone. But also kanave didn’t always take this approach. I will swing back around to this theory later if I have time
More vulgard shade from the poe. Don’t like
Shade on bean pigeon and zorvo. Hm.
Hm. No stance when kanave was starting to look in trouble. Will check the timing on this…
Hm. Feels aligned to kanave and unaligned to beancat tbh
Desperate to save kanave also explains vote progression from killing me to sheeping me although tbf also she listed bean here too.
Not much here. Scumlean
Before zorvo i went back and realized kanave’s one post about zorvo could be partnered easily enough so wolf kp theory still alive and well.
Pigeon… didn’t do much.
Everyone in my poe seems to boo jaiden
Geesh
Pigeon said little. He can be null.
Hrm. Thinking.
Finally someone not treating zorvo like wolf kp lol. This reads unaligned.
Same here
Probably correct observation here
Their interactions (zorvo) feel genuinely annoyed.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/1274?u=achromatic
Great defense of Magnus from me. If scum a job well done tbh.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/1287?u=achromatic
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/1296?u=achromatic
Even if wrong a mindmeld is s positive sign tbh.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/1322?u=achromatic
Unaligned.
Hm.
Oops. I think my final vote sucked for all but wagonomics purposes lol.
Town lean for beancat.
Demisha
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/89?u=achromatic
Seething jaiden trolling haha. It’s a theme.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/174?u=achromatic
Zorvo is wolf kp rising up the charts as more people poe say things that would keep him alive to shoot people.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/182?u=achromatic
Solid enough post. 3 for 3 on reads imo
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/276?u=achromatic
4/4
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/282?u=achromatic
Not aligned with zorvo vibes
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/338?u=achromatic
Not aligned with marluna vibes
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/449?u=achromatic
Love this. Feels so uninformed.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/451?u=achromatic
Of thr vul arguments this feels least bad but a swing and a miss all the same.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/455?u=achromatic
Not unaligned per se but best kanave post from poe in awhile hah.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/659?u=achromati
Decent post.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/748?u=achromatic
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/757?u=achromatic
Ok not aligned with zorvo imo
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/800?u=achromatic
Pocketed by thoughtfulness lol
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/809?u=achromatic
Checks out tbh
… oh wait kanave scum read. Not wolf probably lol. Possible to soft bus but town lean for sure.
Zorvo
Pigeon
Marluna
Molly
My current scum reads of marluna and molly both treated zorvo like wolf kp and kanave didn’t mention them outside of one or two posts. I don’t want to read their iso in detail. I will just say scum lean lol
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/1190?u=achromatic
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/981?u=achromatic
Zorvo doomer prediction in roo-ins
… although
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/884?u=achromatic
I am able to tinfoil where wolf zorvo thinks no one will listen to him and names two wolves. Though if he is town kp who shoots one of them overnight that would be cool. Even if I am wrong and they flip town it is a pro town shot tbh. We will see I guess.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-mafia-day-1/2798/868?u=achromatic
Though if town it is incredibly based we came to the same conclusion lol. Actually that equity I will put zorvo in null. Maybe he is having a good town game if my own reads are right and it is just his style that’s bothering me. I think if I didn’t feel like multiple suspects were treating him like scum KP in their handling of them this would just be a town lean. More than likely though one way or another he will be resolved mechanically so it isn’t worth me worrying about additionally.
Masons who killed scum
Leafia
Phraze
Not a Mason but super killed scum
Vulgard
Town
Marl
Jaiden
Jackrite
Magnus
Catbae
Townleans
lol
Beancat
Demisha
Null
Zorvo
Pigeon
Scum leans
Molly
Marluna
So I started out wanting to find 12 townies and I feel really good about 8. I could tinfoil Catbae a little if Beancat is indeed town but not worth my time most likely. Town leans are also ordered so I feel best about lol in that group of three, mostly because of a seeming lack of viable partners unless I have missed the plot.
VOTE: Marluna
Also I just saw no one died last night, most excellent.
Boom
Achro why would you do that
I embarrassed myself yesterday.
Jesus christ I had to scroll a good 10 seconds before able to get to the bottom of this post
Also hi
I checked who pushed Kanave yesterday and my investigation wound up concluding that I can only award credit to myself because I was the only person actively pushing for this until the wagon swing in the last minute of EoD; I’d give credit to Leafia and Phraze for supporting me on the push but they’re claimed masons so I can’t do that lol
At least maybe it’ll mitigate any lingering concerns people might have about just accepting them as a mason pair
Speaking of that wagon swing, it briefly made me think the wagon was maybe on a townie (hence the comment at EoD) but the fact it flipped mafia makes me feel a bit better about Jaiden and lol in particular; as catbae and Marluna made the beancat wagon rise in prominence, Jaiden and lol slammed their votes on Kanave which ultimately prompted catbae to vote Kanave as well and secured a mafia death
If beancat is town then I would just lock Jaiden and lol town for this, if wagons were w/w with beancat pr then maybe we can start talking about bussing the weaker role but honestly I don’t think it’s worth considering at the moment and jaiden/lol are ?probably? just town anyway
Curious why vigs didn’t shoot anyone, we might just not have a vig but I really expected at least one death
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We probably have a minstrel.
That would explain the no death…
So far as I was reading I agreed with most of this but I’d not give jack a 100% clear just for that yet