When he was town he responded to each of my posts and we both talked about it.
He didn’t do that here.
I dedicated an entire post to explaining why my mind changed on that specific read. Can you please actually read my posts before wolfreading me for them?
No, it was just weird? Literally moments before, Zorvo was talking about resolving me mechanically, and then he hopped onto me. It felt strange. My mind has changed since then, but I really don’t understand what the problem is.
It’s relevant in that I would expect you to actually read my posts, instead of pushing me on a misframing of these posts, if you’re town.
No? ~6 people have voted me so far and I only took issue with two of them, one of whom I’m now calling a villager for how they reacted to my wolfread on them.
You’re factually wrong.
Show me where I came across as panicked.
That’s not what I said. I said that it was wolfy that you said my push on Zorvo was “because Zorvo followed up on his suspicion.” That’s not why I pushed Zorvo, and you should know this, assuming you actually did read the relevant posts.
This is idiotic, please do not do this. We are not establishing a chainyeet order in the middle of day 1 based on a flip that hasn’t even occurred yet.
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Vulgard (5): Zorvo, Magnus, catbae, Jackrito, Demisha
Leafia (2): lol, Jaiden
Jaiden (2): Phraze, thepigeonnyc
Kanave (2): Vulgard, Leafia
Magnus (1): Kanave
I hate using this as an argument, but if you actually think this is a hit, then you’re being lazy. The gamestate really sucks, and it sucks largely because of the overfocus on my slot. Half the game has expressed a wolfread on me in some shape or form, and I severely doubt it’s just incorrect villagers doing this; there are most likely some wolves throwing suspicion into the mix, too. If you’re going to yeet me (I realize I’m saying this in the middle of day 1, but still) you’re going to get virtually no information from day 1 because it’ll all be comprised of people calling me a wolf and voting for me. Maybe you should assess slots other than me and then perhaps return to my wagon at EoD? If you do that, at least this day phase won’t be as worthless as it otherwise will.
I’ve already given my thoughts on people I have actual reads on. As for my wagon, I unfortunately think it’s mostly comprised of villagers at the moment, though that makes sense because wolves would love nothing more than to incite suspicion of me and then let the town do the rest. In my last wolfgame here (poor approximations of catgirls) we did exactly that on day 1 and there were like 5 villagers being wagoned without any of these wagons having a wolf majority.
I’d like to solve slots like Beancat, Bunny, etc., but as they continue not to post, it continues to be impossible. Pigeon’s three posts slightly lean villa, but just like with Phraze, I don’t have any solid reason to believe this.
By the way, this is an actual strawman.
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I don’t particularly disagree with Jack on this, for reference:
I’d say these types of responses in of it themselves have more of a panic ring to them
My whole argument was that people started focusing on you and only then you did (as you mentioned in that quote) actually start doing reads with thorough explanations
That being said however, I am somewhat struggling to distinguish whether you’re a panicking wolf or an over-defensive town mainly because I agree with Jack that as a town:
But at the same time I can somewhat understand the reaction when you take into account the vote count (which by the way it’s a bit too high given that we still have over 10/15 hours to talk so im gonna take my vote off of Vulgard for now), im going to retract my full wolfread on you but i’ll still keep an eye because I do have a heavy lean still
@catbae when you’re around, could you please give all of this a look and give me your opinion on Vulgard? You’re one of my few hard town reads atm
UNVOTE Vulgard
Like I said, im only taking my vote off because I don’t know what count is hammer and 5 votes on you at once was a bit too high for comfort, but if it was lower i’d keep it on because im still not very convinced of you
erm. i feel like i’m gonna have to resort to obnoxious analogies if this keeps up.
zorvo can literally still mech resolve you before pressuring you as well as after. pressuring you doesn’t change that. pressuring does help potentially non-mechanically resolve you, though. what i’m asking is how you think pressuring you, and having a way to resolve you, are contradictory at all.
okay bud please get your middle school debate terms in order it’s reducto ad absurdum. it’s not me saying that’s what you said. it’s an extension of the implications of what you said.
I’m honestly not sure why you still care about the answer, considering the fact I’ve changed my mind since then, but I suppose I can still explain.
Zorvo claims they can self-resolve anyone. It’s discussed for a bit. I’m floated as a good choice for that. Zorvo supports the idea.
Catbae mildly suspects me.
Zorvo proceeds to push me and calls it pressure.
I found it weird that he’d push me despite suggesting me as a good target to mechanically resolve like this.
If you’re trying to tilt me for no reason then you’ll need to try harder.
I’m top wagon, nobody townreads me, what am I supposed to do other than defend myself and give more content? Honestly not sure what you and others expected when you voted me and made me a wagon. That’s how things are supposed to go.
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If me not understanding your point makes you resort to obnoxious analogies, then it doesn’t sound like a problem with me.
It’s a 17er, hammer’s at 8 votes.
9 votes. I can’t count.
we’re getting nowhere. this post makes it look like you read nothing i said before the part you quoted.
lol
im crying about it
if it’s literal wolf behiavour why is it not d1 issue
do we not need to kill wolves