Kaguya-sama: Love is War Mafia - Game Over - Town & Hitman Win

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#1961

Heya Leafia. I get why you had that impression but I did a really in depth read of Kanave and others (like marluna) and there was some genuine shade thrown around towards Jaiden that I think looks good for her. I think you’re pointing out something in isolation that could be bad but isn’t.

Also, I am a scum lean for you, it is possible that I was a scum lean for Jaiden too genuinely and she was pursuing her own reads and it was just a bad coincidence. Jaiden only looks “bad” there if I flip town, which I will mind you, but since you don’t know that yet you should give her a break. Also, when I do flip town, keep in mind that I can look past her wagon on me because she has a lot going for her.

So basically just try to be a bit more macro thinking. I get why you are suspicious, but there’s a lot in her favor as well.

#1962

Yeah. That helps a lot too.

#1963

Were my over night thoughts on Zorvo enough? I didn’t want to do a full iso but I felt like I did a decent job discussing him and also possible wolf kp equity based on how others talked about him. The town read is easy to see I just have no idea scum range here.

#1964

@Vulgard - talk to me about this post. At what point did you start to think kanave might flip town?

#1965

damn i didnt know you townread zorvo this hard

#1966

He did but it’s the most hollow claim i’ve ever seen, don’t expect any self resolves from zorvo

#1967

I did read them and I’m mulling them over
Idk if I’d put this much stock in the idea of him being wolf KP because his claim in particular is kinda dumb if he’s an important wolf role but if he’s actually a wolf KP role that can also “self-resolve” someone then it would check out I guess

Feels more like a rabbit hole than anything

#1968

Yeah I started to realize that too so I bumped him up to null. I was like “I am kind of talking myself out of it here” but it would be funny if true.

I think marluna/molly have by far the most scum equity based on read throughs though and it isn’t particularly close. Pigeon would be a boring third but there’s nothing there.

#1969

I actually explained this today already, in this post

#1970

I can’t see much in her favor honestly, but I might be biased with how she treated me SoD 1. You can’t ignore her scummy points though.

#1971

If someone gets a lot more votes than other wagons at eod it’s usually on a villager in my experience which is why I assumed it would flip town

#1972

Why would zorvo’s town stocks significantly drop for lying about his PR on day 1?
To me it was an extremely obvious fake claim but it’s no indicator of being wolf

#1973

He wolfread me for pushing him over his play not making sense with his claim
In fact molly suspected me for the same thing
So if his claim was fake to begin with he shouldn’t have reacted in this way if he’s town

#1974

serves me right for not catching up, I guess, but that post was burning a hole in my brain overnight because I found it incredibly strange at the time. Agreed that jaiden/lol are likely just town unless there’s some absurd world where beancat is a scum pr but even then I kind of doubt it.

#1975

That’s probably because he was really hoping for people to bow down to his threat PR claim lol but you also weren’t as clear yesterday because the kanave flip hadn’t happened yet, I doubt he would have confronted you as much with the info we have from today’s flip

#1976

This is Seth we’re talking about here. Also, Marluna is definitely the best execution for today, but I also want a CW to Marluna for wagonomics reasons. Now to head out for a bit for RL reasons. :sleepingleafeon:

#1977

Ehh…
Not TRing, just that I think Zorvo would do as vanilla town.

#1978

I agree, faking a PR is regrettably not a scumtell for zorvo when he has a history of doing this all the time.

#1979

I have a mechanical question for the thread
There’s one person in particular I’m considering asking to claim their role but idk if that’s a good idea
Anticlaim doesn’t necessarily exist

#1980

If it isn’t in my scum lean/null I would not want this atm.