∘ ☙ Kakegurui: Compulsive Gambler Mafia -- GAME OVER ❧ ∘

A bit too much for me pal, I read it and I … sorta understood your point. If you’d like me to reply to any part in specific it’d help me a ton if you could point it for me specifically :pray:

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Yes.

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At this point, I don’t know if this is beneficial for everyone on first day.

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Well, going to call it a night now everyone, so good night. :sleepingleafeon:

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You’re still awake relatively early, feel free to take breakfast then parse over things again once you’re feeling more refreshed. A cold shower could help wonders to revitalise your senses.

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Maybe, I’m not sure. Looks good for me then as I did a good job of explaining my reads here

I don’t like lying. I’d be lying if I said anything else

Doesn’t make sense to me at all. Other people meeting Leafia with early undue attention? That doesn’t matter to me at all

Who said anything about Leafia being executed? Paranoia! You want me to be mafia

Nope. I never said my townread on kiiruma is because of that. and my position was stern

Yes, you think so because you didn’t mention the actual reasons I townread them for!

I have no idea what you’re trying to say

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UNVOTE Tutuu

VOTE: Leafia

I do not like the reaction to magnus very much in that there’s a hint of defensiveness to it and is trying to make a big deal out of a pretty ordinary post.

Magnus’s arguments toward tutuu feel like they are probably coming from a real place, but I thought tutuu’s posting on return to thread was adequate myself. I am led to believe magnus is able to spin up loads of nonsense as mafia but have not seen it myself, for now default assumption is toward town

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I apologise for any confusion brought upon by convoluted or misleading statements on my behalf, that’s entirely my fault and I’ll work at making myself more easily understood.

Kiiruma and Catbae have both expressed question regarding Leafia’s slot, the former with decidedly more vigour than the latter. I, personally, expressed the first read of the game as suspicion on Leafia. Unless you completely overlooked this thread of topic entirely and just haven’t read the thread at all (proclaimed to be previously true, seemingly debunked with your rereading commentary), you should be aware of this. Therefore, posting an insubstantial townread on Leafia which doesn’t commit to either side could be presented as an excuse to skedaddle aside.
Therefore, it’s emphatically relevant.

The way I interpret this message in my head is that you’re only townreading Kiiruma because his phraseology stresses an internal mindset, which should apply irrespective of alignment since evils aren’t robots, which you found fascinating enough to sign off with enthusiasm. Your read feels artificial.

Your other rebuttals don’t really seem directly pertinent, just illuminating subjective brevity to highlight your behaviour.

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I went back up to look at the player liost and saw chomps somehow has 50 posts lmao. realistically I shouldn’t give him credit for that since it’s not like most of them have real game content but even having the energy to mindlessly shitpost is trending town there

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Bit of a slow start bt it’s early still

anyway I’m headed to sleep, but before I go:

I have a compulsive action I have to choose someone to target with. This person will have a choice, depending on the choice they will get a penalty, or I will. I’m putting this out in the open now in the interest of transparency because I believe it’s better for me to be open and accountable with what I’m doing, so there’s no concern it’s an evil action and people can be aware of whatever penalties arise.

been incredibly vague because of anticlaim but thought it was worthwhile to mention this.

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I forgot if I saw that or not. At this very moment it’s not in my memory. I read all posts and I must have parsed those parts as not that important for me

Could be, but can you not take this argument to justify literally anything as potential scummyness?

“Tutuu posting an insubstantial townread on Leafia who is taking heat could be a sign of scummyness”

Like yeah if I flip mafia and you go back and re-read the game you could go like “Oh hey, look what I noticed. Tutuu this this and that. Makes sense why he did that…” but isn’t this like justifying it after the fact? I’d argue this isn’t an inherently scummy thing on its own, unless you think posting unsubstantial townreads on its own a general scum tell. Because the only fact that we know for sure is that I posted an unsubstantial townread. If I am town, that’s all there is to it. And I posted that read because I was just honest about not being confident, and why would your and Kiiruma’s stances on Leafia would have to deter me from making my own read on Leafia? Wouldn’t make sense at all for me to act as town that way. If I am mafia, maybe what you said was my reason. But unsubstantial townread is the only thing to read me off of, I think. For that scenario at least. Like it’s the only thing that is certain. And the leafia heat thing is an explanation after the fact, if im mafia, not a symptom for me to be mafia, i think. You dont think its reasonable for town me to make that read?

you could say an internal mindset yeah. “should” apply - sure, but it should apply if they are tryharding, in my ideas of tryharding. i dont think it “does” apply. and its not about the humanity of the players. its about ability. its not intuitive to do it as wolf. and “it” is - to not just lay out all your lies in an easily digestible manner

and what i found fascinating is kiiruma’s change of character. thats not related to my read on kiiruma, which is based off kiiruma’s lack of presenting this change of character in a palatable manner. the substance of his messages i found fascinating, his delivery i found alignment indicative

my enthusiasm to lock him town is not what you say too. its because of his tone of slight annoyance at chomps

Couldn’t sleep and that was no ordinary post Catbae. That was deliberately trying to make me look bad. High chance of a wolf in Magnus/Catbae I think. Being defensive isn’t AI for me and you know it. Anyone is going to be defensive when they’re pushed for no reason.

Yeah. Adding Tutuu to my towncore for now. His last post just oozes villageriness.

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Now to head back to dreamland. Good night 2. :sleepingleafeon:

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You know I’m Europian, right?

I was mostly sleeping.

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It’s an anime based on a manga. (I prefer the manga version, so I might not know a few anime-exclusive character.)
Also I think it is the most famous gambling manga.

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Huh. I think this rebuff baffles me. Tutuu established a tangential metric to compare with, likening a current read akin to postgame analysis with all the knowledge that comes with, building upon the bricks of self-informed justification and fabrication. Beyond a surface understanding of this claim, Tutuu’s edict recognises that we are mere players bumbling with sticks, and communicates the silent affair of drawing shapes in clouds which don’t exist. For all intents and purposes, it evades the performance that most evils would be expected to dance; providing an almost theoretical outlook which most audiences would ignore. I don’t even know how deliberate Tutuu was here, it could just so easily have been perceived as a blunder, but either way it doesn’t seem like the approach he’d make as evil.

I’ll deliberate on this further in the immediate future. In the meantime, I’ll wait to see how Leafia reacts to an alleged scumread of hers jumping ship extremely casually with limited preamble.
VOTE: Leafia.

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Pass

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Okay. Magnus is practically claiming scum here. Time to reveal something that should set things back in track. I’m a mason.

Mason partner, don’t confirm me. I have a plan that I’ve already detailed in the mason chat.

Both my mason and I know all the details of each other’s cards too.

Magnus is a good enough player not to act like this as a villager as well. He just sees me as s an easy misexe right now.

All will become clear about my plan by the end of the day, but what happens today should help make the wolves a bit more clear. That’s my hope anyway.

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I’m pretty sure leafia always just makes up their reads for first 100 posts, they feel like they need to make reads instantly lol. Can be mafia but rand V, and I thought Magnus instantly sussing it was classic wolf play.

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I forgot to mention I had a an N0 red check on Marluna, never rescinding

VOTE: Marluna

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