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[Zugzwang]

@Zone_Q11

What does this have to do with (limited) dead interaction?

this is just a constant across all mafia games (it’s only a problem when combined with the other issues)

@Zone_Q11

But… that’s exactly what you did in Wrogn 2…?
(Also, same question as above.)

It’s exactly what I did, and it was indeed very tiring (significantly due to my wolf alignment - but there have been towngames where I was exhausted as well).
In most games, I die before it ends, and then am out of the game, which makes that fine.

@Zone_Q11

Dead interaction in itself is already impactful. Like, even if you have one-sided dead interaction (e.g., Medium that can only read), that’s already powerful enough (…assuming dead players know of dead interaction’s existence) .

It’s impactful, sure, but it’s not to the point where it would feel good most of the time.
Restless spirits had:

Summary

@Zone_Q11

Post-Mortem Roles

Town Restless Spirit

You are a [Town] Restless Spirit

Passive: Solitary Soul
As long as you have not used any active abilities, you will have no access to any other chat. You may opt to regain access by giving up your right to use your active abilities.

Active: Lingering Will
Once per game, you will be able to vote. Your vote cannot trigger Majority and will not show up on any VC except the Final VC, and you will show up as [Spirit]. This ability is locked at XYLO.

Active: Guardian Angel
Once per game during night phase, if [Lingering Will] has never been activated, you may remove [Lingering Will], choose another player, and protect them from any attacks tonight.

You win when all Mafia members have been completely eliminated, and when at least 1 Town member is still alive.

Mafia Restless Spirit

You are a [Mafia] Restless Spirit

Passive: Solitary Soul
As long as you have not used any active abilities, you will have no access to any other chat. You may opt to regain access by giving up your right to use your active abilities.

Active: Lingering Grudge
Once per game, you will be able to vote. Your vote cannot trigger Majority and will not show up on any VC except the Final VC, and you will show up as [Spirit]. This ability is locked at XYLO.

Active: Hunter Demon
Once per game during night phase, if [Lingering Grudge] has never been activated, you may remove [Lingering Grudge], and cause for this night’s faction kill to be Strongmanned, i.e. redirect-immune, roleblock-immune, and piercing through any form of healing and protection.

You win when all Town members have been completely eliminated, or when nothing prevents this from happening.

Neutral Restless Spirit

You are a [Neutral] Restless Spirit

Passive: Solitary Soul
As long as you have not used any active abilities, you will have no access to any other chat. You may opt to regain access by giving up your right to use your active abilities.

Active: ???
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Which is not nearly impactful enough IMO.

[May]

I’m listening to a video on how to play Smash

[Atlas]

oh boo i missed the cookie
i wonder who got it

[Zone_Q11]

@Zugzwang

Which is not nearly impactful enough IMO.

…oh. No wonder people thought it sucks.
They didn’t know about the other roles with dead interaction. (Necromancer and Retributionist.)

[Zugzwang]

ATLAS

[tutuu]

always competitive~

[benguinedparbecue]

just hit the buttons

[benguinedparbecue]

i was solidly best in my friend group but terrible online tier in smash 4

[benguinedparbecue]

i know a surprising amount of ultimate theory for someone who’s never played

[Zugzwang]

@Zone_Q11

…oh. No wonder people thought it sucks.
They didn’t know about the other roles with dead interaction. (Necromancer and Retributionist.)

people might not like neutrals either, though that’s likely less of an issue

[Zone_Q11]

I’m confident I can reveal this info because Restless Spirits won’t be run anymore. Forever.

[YoubutWorse]

well the question asks for life changing

20 years is really only life changing if im gonna die in 2 hours

[May]

Your life is your entire life dummy

[snowe]

color

[Marshal]

pretty good against friends and really really bad against people online is just the story of any smash player

[Atlas]

oh did i get it
i guess that’s what hard work and dedication and not being a thieving little bitch, benguinedparbecue, does for you

[Marshal]

Either kill one person I dislike or bring back one person from the dead

[Zone_Q11]

@Zugzwang

neutrals

Ya, uh. If it is in it, then it is in it. There is nothing to be done about it, and if people avoid it, then so be it.

[Marshal]

ironically the only two options i feel serious conviction towards are “kill elon” or “revive tesla” which is a little funny dash of irony

[tutuu]

May if you put on the cat ears and wear the widow maker shawl you will attract a crowd of simps following you around on campus