Last Stand of the Virtuous 5.5 - Day 4 (12/17)

[Canping]

carbon has been given a vote by daeron, hazard and bean

sirderspalot has 4 votes as of now

SirDerpsAlot (3): Zone_Q11, Frostwolf103, Chomps, Jarek
carbonated (2): Daeron, beancat, Hazardwaste
beancat (1): carbonated
Unvote (1): jail

Not Voting (8): Canping, Sayno, SirDerpsAlot, Kelsier, Achromatic, MerpyDerpy, Kiiruma,

^edit: this is false i did it manually :((((

[Daeron]

Because the current non-town alive are either (and yes I am assuming a 2nd neutral exists as I am GK)

Visionary, Heroine, random BD convert, Random Neutral & Random Neutral
Arbiter, random HoB convert, random HoB convert, random neutral, random neutral

Jarek handing out a card to frostwolf confirms they’re a Sibyl or equivelant, meaning they can’t be a random neutral, arbiter, visionary or heroine

Or they can be - but they’d have to be claiming place of one of their scum teammates, which I doubt

[Canping]

this is correct right?

[Daeron]

are you doing manual VCs???

[Canping]

ARE YOU NOT DOING IT MANUALLY???

[Frostwolf103]

SirDerpsAlot (3): Zone_Q11, Frostwolf103, Chomps
carbonated (3): beancat, Daeron, Hazardwaste
beancat (1): carbonated
Kelsier (1): Jarek

Not Voting (8): Canping, Sayno, SirDerpsAlot, Kelsier, Achromatic, MerpyDerpy, Kiiruma, jail

is correct

[Daeron]

HIT THIS BUTTON

[Canping]

tell me tell meeee

[Canping]

LMFAOOO well i guess i figured how you guys got the correct vc and posted it now

[MerpyDerpy]

Normally, I’d say the vote count can be seen next to the post if you click on the hammer, but I honestly didn’t realize there was as many votes out as there are. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

[Frostwolf103]

Okay but whats the point you are going to bring up?

[Canping]

i was going to vote carbon as well i needed to count votes

[Hazardwaste]

@Kiiruma

Hi, I am a mechanical player and you know this, so I personally object to the idea that knowing things = death. It makes me a more noteworthy target for conversion later if I can be converted but that’s besides the point.

Introduction 10/10 evil /j (it worked in MASH surely it works here)

@Kiiruma

1 - Choosing not to answer and I recommend nobody answers.

i was confused on this answer. i dont think its AI but the question honestly felt innocent enough. i dont see how it harms town at all to guess what we are versing. it harms us if we stick with it

@Kiiruma

I don’t really have much when it comes to the King since now that relies upon us reading the hosts and what they’d choose. Which could be anything.

VOTE: Pandora
Haven’t seen anybody else who stands out too much to me.

the insta vote with no hedge feels town. this is the thing thats getting me daeron. this feels like town kiiruma

@Kiiruma

Pandora’s my main scumread atm, not been a fan of opener or many of the slot’s posts overall. I do also think Pandora’s opening posts was very much UTR setup which is never towny. Pandora is Moderate Wolf and my most confident scumread at this time.

Beancat’s willingness to go with the King things originally without thinking much feels anti-town for the slot. A lot of the posts are short and snappy which feels like the slot is trying to fly utr. Beancat currently as a result is Null, lean Wolf

Derps’ intro isn’t pro town and just makes me think of an opportunistic neut. The slot’s read on Frost feels very flimsy and surface level considering what I expect from a slot like Derps. Derps is Null, lean Wolf for the aforementioned.

Yes it sucks that my top wolf reads are lower posters. However, I feel like for the small amount of posts that I find questionable of higher posters, I’m finding a higher proportion of posts questionsble for the lower posters.

this also seems town coded kiiruma

@Kiiruma

Jarek saying Prince which could be a slip as to it being BD?
And/Or Jarek rolefishing?

Yeah I’m not a fan of either of those things. And think it should be discouraged. If I didn’t think that the slot for the most part was fine, I’d be voting there.

ok this feels forced.

@Kiiruma

Canping - This slot for the most part is kinda uninteresting to me. I liked the questions said in this post but it isn’t exactly AI either way. This, on the other hand makes me think that Hazard and Canping aren’t starting off as W/W either way because it feels a bit weird to say to a teammate. I think that this slot has a decent chance at flipping wolf, however due to the posts overall being mixed, this slot is True Null. I feel like between Canping and beancat there likely is a wolf but we’ll see.

@Kiiruma

The bottom one should be Carbonated not Canping. I was doing reads in order from top to bottom and I kinda just zoned out near the end as I was typing the name.

@Kiiruma

Canping - I feel like this slot early on was a bunch of nothing interesting, making small comments about how some mechanics worked. However, upon this post I felt like the slot was at least providing some thoughts even if they were concentrated on something I think was a tad unnecessary. My biggest gripe with the slot is how despite being around, the slot has early on mostly only interacted with Hazard and beancat, which feels a bit weird. Due to the fact that there’s been some alright thoughts, but nothing of too much worth and I’d rather this slot provides something more concrete, Canping is Null lean Town.

the links to both these posts are connected to canping and for both these posts he ended up giving canping a different read even when they used the same piece of info for both pieces

[Frostwolf103]

I am starting to bleed

[Daeron]

You just got bled? lol.

[Frostwolf103]

Uh yeah, I am looking up the rolecard list what can possibly causing this

[Hazardwaste]

@Kiiruma

Carbonated - Congratulations you get your own section because I fucked up first time. I feel like your posts overall have been kinda nothing due to the questions about the illusory stuff and whatnot. The slot itself doesn’t have many interesting interactions and I wish I’d see a bit more that could be AI, the slot seems happy to go with the flow as can be seen here. Wanting to kill off pandora (The biggest wagon) or Beancat (A player pushing against Carbonated too). I did somewhat like explanations as to why in a later post but I feel like in the end the slot can consider more things but has failed to do so and there is, as I remembered True Null.

hmmm… the way this post is written feels like it should be scum lean. he comments on carbon saying nothing of use. the only positive he mentioned was explanation in later posts which he never pointed out… idk i feel like this shouldnt be a true null
and he kinda has been non existent today… fuck idk anymore. theres some real town core messages day 1 from kiiruma but also some really weird occurences.

[Hazardwaste]

they bled you?

[Daeron]

Heroine & Arbiter both have it at base

[Frostwolf103]

Yeah, either active player did it or it’s on the timetable.

Either way I am bleeding right now, this moment. Not way sooner.