Last Stand of the Virtuous V: Venerated - Day 3 (10/17) - UNSEEN AND VISCOUNT WIN

Either I did look wolfy, or I didn’t. If I didn’t those two are suspicious as fuck if I did well fair enough. Still don’'t like that they jumped on it so hard in that world but I am the victim of it so why would I

  1. Geyde - Unseen (Abstain stance for king)
  2. Frostwolf103 - Unseen (want king alive)
  3. Kiiruma - null (abstain stance for king)
  4. Ash - null (want king dead)
  5. Amelia - null (want king dead)
  6. jail - null (want king dead)
  7. Hazardwaste - null (want king alive)
  8. Canping - null (abstain on stance for king)
  9. Eve = Lilith + Pandora - null (want king dead)
  10. SirDerpsAlot - null (want king dead)
  11. Jarek - King :crown:
  12. Bionic - null (wants king alive)
  13. Luka - Evil Team (wants king dead)
  14. Zugzwang Unseen (abstain stance for king)
  15. CatInTree - null (want king dead/alive)
  16. Brakuren - Unseen (want king alive)
  17. Leafia - Unseen (want king alive)

Notes

Luka votes Derps for pushing against king

Zug takes cautious approach and questions whether Jarek is genuine about neuts in

CatInTree have mixed stance in yes/no on killing king

Count

ALIVE: 6
DEAD: 7
ABSTAIN: 3

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If you actually legit think neuts out is a good idea you’re just making 1/2 more enemies for no reason tbh tbh

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You best believe I’m all in for the neuts staying alive, at a stretch even the griefy ones like angel can stick around too if I know who they are because killing them becomes a waste of time, so long as you can ensure they will win they shouldn’t have a reason to side against you

Neuts aren’t friendly to Unseen or to king sharing same wincon, so bring it on.

Furthermore, let the evil stay boxed in with 3 members instead of 2.

And when we find them all, execute the plan.

Okay about the only argument against a neutral that we absolutely shouldn’t keep around is insurgent. But if you believe you can trick the insurgent into thinking I’m evil, then even they can stick around purely because they think their win condition is making evils lose.

Like EVEN VISCOUNT is fine. players with royal blood will die as the game goes on - and this’ll sound crazy but KING DOESN’T HAVE ROYAL BLOOD so if they just wanted to be chill they could just let me vibe and kill all the royal blood enjoyers or wait for evils to do it.

Basically there’s literally zero reason for you to be threatening any neutral here. It’s a waste of time to kill pretty much any of them unless it’s maybe mage mage can die

Every other neut has an alternate win condition that might be a little annoying for us but the tradeoff is we know who they are, and they get gone when they win

You don’t know which neutral are going to spawn, neither do I. But I wont hope for the best.

However Jarek, what will you do with information regarding player stances about your position as king.

CatInTree’s stance wouldn’t be valid having flip flopping view, but sure wants dead more than alive.

VOTE: Luka

What I am saying is that you’re basically on a tie @Jarek

No but assuming the benign ones are around you don’t want to make them enemies

Naive point, but you do you.

That’s not a big deal. I’ve already made it pretty clear that my alignment doesn’t matter to the game at large. I’m incapable of ever being KP or converting anyone or whatever, and if I’m evil I’m uninformed. Essentially it’s very silly to consider killing me until, at the very least, someone is capable of stepping without any possibility of being evil

Town can’t make that happen right now and a king vote would be completely random. Scum don’t know if I’m a LW or not, town don’t know if I’m on their side or not, so it doesn’t suprise me that it’s essentially a cointoss on if people want me dead or not

I have different view:

Abstain votes are either unseen or want to stay alive by not get involved (neut / evil ), but they don’t require my attention unless social / mech came up.

I don’t believe in rookie mistakes, so naturally I will place the bleed on players overthrowing our corrupted monarchy.

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