Last Stand of the Virtuous V: Venerated - Day 3 (10/17) - UNSEEN AND VISCOUNT WIN

[jail]

well i actually was claiming that looking deeper into things instead of skimming them was protown, not that i was deeply looking at anything.

although even if i was, i am failing to understand why me wanting to stop a discussion that i find useless for town is at all indicative of me being wolfy. your wolfread makes absolutely no sense. There’s no read that i am hoping people trust me on there, lol. I was initially saying that you going deeper into it ran as a paranoid villager who wants to keep all of their options going, but you are now currently misconstruing my posts- wording my annoyance of reading too much into things as me shutting down reads. tinfoiling leafia’s role does absolutely nothing to solve anyones alignment, so you wording it as if i am shutting down reads instead of shutting down something i find to be antitown is bad lol

[jail]

@CatInTree

I do not like you saying that a read exists when looked at deeply, and then saying to not look at it deeply
Like to me you are just saying “trust me on this, no I will not explain, and trying to look deeply is anti-town”

yeah no

you are completely trying to misrepresent me here. this is in bad faith.

VOTE: CatInTree

[CatInTree]

@jail

i think that inherently taking a deeper look publicly into what leafia’s modpost means shows ~townie more than not

but i believe spending an extended amount of time into it is also antitown

Maybe this is just worded poorly
But it directly says
i think that inherently taking a deeper look publicly into what leafia’s modpost means shows ~townie more than not
but i believe spending an extended amount of time into it is also antitown
spending an extended amount of time into “it” which is taking a deeper look at leafia’s modpost
Are you not saying that spending an extended amount of time looking at the modpost is anti town

[CatInTree]

Wait, what did you mean here?

@jail

i think that inherently taking a deeper look publicly into what leafia’s modpost means shows ~townie more than not

Because it seems I thought you meant something you didn’t

[jail]

there is no linear thought process

this is someone trying to portray my words as bad

cat has not only ignored extra insight that i have given them, but they have continuously intentionally misconstrued my point which was “tinfoiling this is bad discussion” to “stop having this read” especially since there is no read in the first place.

i also feel as if they have done nothing to actively question why as mafia i would even feel the need to shut down this conversion. a mafia member has no reason to shut down tinfoiling leafia not being the modposter because it opens up discussion which can very easily be hijacked by wolves especially in the case of leafia being town. which is exactly why i believed it was antitown.

[CatInTree]

What tinfoiling was happening that was not just saying Leafia might be evil?

[jail]

@CatInTree

Are you not saying that spending an extended amount of time looking at the modpost is anti town

not at the modpost itself

but the mech behind it. the fact that she has posted a modpost

[CatInTree]

Like from my perspective, this was the only thing going on.
So you saying that this was anti town was suspicious to me

[CatInTree]

@jail

tinfoiling leafia not being the modposter

You mean the thing I shut down here, right after saying it?

@CatInTree

I don’t think this is the case though, because if Leafia dies and this is the case, we know 2 “good” roles in play.

@CatInTree

I mean I did say it was highly unlikely
Although I didn’t consider that exact angle

And agreed with you here

[Eve]

@Eve

who up chronicing they fatigue

meeeee :3

[Eve]

hey guys. i think brakuren is town. i think jarek is town. i think luka is town. i think leafia is wolfy. VOTE: leafia

[CatInTree]

@jail

i think that inherently taking a deeper look publicly into what leafia’s modpost means shows ~townie more than not

And then here, I read this as you saying the modpost looked townie, leading me to come to the conclusion that that was the “tinfoiling” you were saying was bad the next sentence down.
Because the whole thing about leafia not being the modposter was shut off by me, right after I said it

[Eve]

i forgot that leafia did that modpost but actually does that mean anything because all three versions of the class can modpost right

[jail]

@CatInTree

There is the possibility that Leafia is wolf, but not Mystic or Cabalist.
And another player is Mystic or Cabalist.
But we do know that if Leafia is good, they are the Illusionist, and if they are evil, that there is a Mystic or Cabalist in play somewhere.

@CatInTree

Also, not necessarily. Leafia could be a different “good” instead and have a Mystic/Cabalist in play making Leafia look like the Mystic/Cabalist.
I don’t think this is the case though, because if Leafia dies and this is the case, we know 2 “good” roles in play.

@CatInTree

This could be from anyone
Just because it has your name on it doesn’t mean it’s from you

you were very clearly tinfoiling leafia as an evil with this exact mech, which is pointless. i don’t care about any particular read on leafia, but spending time tinfoiling that leafia did not send the message and arguing with leafia herself about it is literally not helpful to the game at all lol

and it seems like you have not even given any sort of actual read on leafia independently of this, instead further publicly tinfoiling her.

@CatInTree

Wait Leafia could be viscount

@CatInTree

Because the viscount has an ability to copy the abilities of an unseen

@CatInTree

Wait no
The Illusionist doesn’t have royal blood
Ignore this

if you are tinfoiling leafia this much, why are you not making any sort of individual read on her? especially when you’ve actively had a real time interaction with her. but you are comfortable enough to make tinfoils on every possible way she can be evil. it looks like you are actively trying to tiptoe around her slot instead of giving an actual read on her

[jail]

@CatInTree

And then here, I read this as you saying the modpost looked townie

yea i wasnt doing that

[jail]

i will remove that from consideration knowing you read my post wrong but going into your iso now has given me more suspicions of you

[CatInTree]

Every single post is conditioned right after saying it is unlikely or impossible.
Like I was just pushing back on people saying that it was mechanically impossible for Leafia to not be one of the 3 roles, because that’s not true.

[Luka]

If you think they’re converted go for it but don’t kill them regards until a convert is confirmed

[CatInTree]

I don’t disagree
Just didn’t want someone to be sussed because they didn’t want to follow the letter of your command

[CatInTree]

If I wanted people to tinfoil Leafia as not one of the 3, I wouldn’t say it was unlikely twice after, no?