Last Stand of the Virtuous V: Venerated - Day 3 (10/17) - UNSEEN AND VISCOUNT WIN

[Luka]

i might just fight austrum deus next
its practically post moonlord but i find the fight to be really easy

[Brakuren]

why u even fighting astrum deus isn’t it post cultist

[Luka]

yeah but it basically doesnt attack you
id argue the only bad thing about the fight is its tedious

[Brakuren]

is eternity plantera that hard or smh

[Luka]

keep in mind this is just death mode deus not anything else

[Luka]

a lot of projectiles to the point where id just prefer to progression skip using calamity and beat it with attacks

[Luka]

also deus is just pathetically easy

[Luka]

nvm think i can just do plantera
got them to 40k hp

[Luka]

12k hp

[Zugzwang]

@jail

when i was continuing to express sus on them and i started like repeatedly asking for their read on leafia and i realized like. ok this is going nowhere. i feel like im trying to find reasons to tunnel u. i once again thought i was being a bit too aggro there lol idt i would get anything helpful out of it.

nyaaaaaaa this is good

[Zugzwang]

specifically,

@jail

there is no linear thought process

this is someone trying to portray my words as bad

cat has not only ignored extra insight that i have given them, but they have continuously intentionally misconstrued my point which was “tinfoiling this is bad discussion” to “stop having this read” especially since there is no read in the first place.

i also feel as if they have done nothing to actively question why as mafia i would even feel the need to shut down this conversion. a mafia member has no reason to shut down tinfoiling leafia not being the modposter because it opens up discussion which can very easily be hijacked by wolves especially in the case of leafia being town. which is exactly why i believed it was antitown.

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@jail

@CatInTree

There is the possibility that Leafia is wolf, but not Mystic or Cabalist.
And another player is Mystic or Cabalist.
But we do know that if Leafia is good, they are the Illusionist, and if they are evil, that there is a Mystic or Cabalist in play somewhere.

@CatInTree

Also, not necessarily. Leafia could be a different “good” instead and have a Mystic/Cabalist in play making Leafia look like the Mystic/Cabalist.
I don’t think this is the case though, because if Leafia dies and this is the case, we know 2 “good” roles in play.

@CatInTree

This could be from anyone
Just because it has your name on it doesn’t mean it’s from you

you were very clearly tinfoiling leafia as an evil with this exact mech, which is pointless. i don’t care about any particular read on leafia, but spending time tinfoiling that leafia did not send the message and arguing with leafia herself about it is literally not helpful to the game at all lol

and it seems like you have not even given any sort of actual read on leafia independently of this, instead further publicly tinfoiling her.

@CatInTree

Wait Leafia could be viscount

@CatInTree

Because the viscount has an ability to copy the abilities of an unseen

@CatInTree

Wait no
The Illusionist doesn’t have royal blood
Ignore this

if you are tinfoiling leafia this much, why are you not making any sort of individual read on her? especially when you’ve actively had a real time interaction with her. but you are comfortable enough to make tinfoils on every possible way she can be evil. it looks like you are actively trying to tiptoe around her slot instead of giving an actual read on her

these posts felt pretty confident / aggro so I found it wolfy to go so quickly to a townread
but given this explanation the progression makes sense

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

@jail

when i was continuing to express sus on them and i started like repeatedly asking for their read on leafia and i realized like. ok this is going nowhere. i feel like im trying to find reasons to tunnel u. i once again thought i was being a bit too aggro there lol idt i would get anything helpful out of it.

beyond just making the progression work it’s also towny in itself
the post in general, and especially the bolded, is very honest/open about their thoughts in a way that’s awkward to fake for a wolf
since, a wolf is always trying to find reasons to wolfread people, when (unless jail/cat is w/w) they know they’re wrong

[Zugzwang]

nyaaaaaaaaa kinda want to kill Bionic
from what I’ve seen from T!Bionic, he sticks to pushes more than he’s done here
whereas in FAM4 and Singers FM, he bounced around more, without a consistent push, because he’s not yet learned to imitate that part of his meta

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

from what I’ve seen from T!Bionic, he sticks to pushes more than he’s done here

rereading April Showers Reconstructed, this checks out

the only thing that gives me pause is the TP claim, which idk if w!Bionic fakes

[Amelia]

i think W!Bionic is competent enough to claim TP he’s played town of salem

[Zugzwang]

@Luka

nya

nya

[Zugzwang]

@Amelia

i think W!Bionic is competent enough to claim TP he’s played town of salem

oh that’s true
yeah then VOTE: Bionic

[Amelia]

why does this have me rolling

[Zugzwang]

what’s this

[Amelia]

rolling = laughing