Mafia: Trials and Tribulations [Thread 1 - DO NOT POST]

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#3761

i would go through their meta and establish this but… like, you can intuitively see how this makes sense? two claims in particular stick out- when they wree v, they once claimed Alchemist (basically survivor), a neutral, for multiple days. When they were w, they claimed cop for multiple days. I think in terms of fakeclaims that’s their meta tell- as wolf, because of their knowledge of people’s allignments, they’re more willing to claim Cop because they know they can control exactly which peeks they make are correct and which ones aren’t.

notice how their role is basically like “i get redpeeks but only occasionally, basically at random?” (ignoring the vanity wagon bit, of course, which is such self-evident nonsense i don’t even count it as part of the role), which is like, the wolf’s ideal fakeclaim, since it can produce red peeks but not green peeks

#3762

I think im getting too complacent though

still fine with trying to build an airtight poe today

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#3763

so given their claim is already not good for them, if we’re looking at Everything Else surrounding them there’s so little going for them that… yeah, stick them in the PoE, probably catchthem in today’s tie, pretty easy resolve

#3764

I had at least one wrong in my deception list. I listed Maria, Silvui, and Wisdom in it.

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#3765

he also claimed Setup Oracle in Ciconia and he also claimed something else in another wolfgame he was in

lemme find it

#3766

Going to head to bed now so good night everyone. :sleepingleafeon:

#3767

setup oracle is the kind of thing he tends towards; another thing is that as wolf he’s more afraid of claiming falsifiable things wheras as village he fakeclaims just. absolutely anything. because he knows that if reality is contradicted he’s confident enough in his own allignment to convince others

#3768

oh he also claimed Town Thief when he was a Mafia Item Thief

in this game

i remember this game specifically because i was the only person to defend him when he flipped wolf

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#3769

basically, as wolf he tends towards peek creators (irrespective of if they’re cops or not) and roles which are very hard to falsify, taking advantage of his TMI

this is why he’s such a danger lategame on this site because most people’s instinct is to try and focus on his claim and falsify it, and that can’t really be done because he makes sure that whatever he claims can’t be proven wrong

#3770

so let’s just puut his claim aside for a bit and talk about the rest of his play this game, since I’m much less versed in that; what’s your opinion on it, Proph?

#3771

ici he claimed an investigative that can stop night kills
in the span of three minutes (I checked!) claim morphed into that

#3772

but yeah tldr fine with wisdom/kiiruma wagons for now

fine with having the collective poe fight it out

i was immediately wary because he started to play a lot more conventionally this game (give well thought out, decently nuanced reads)

i’ve played a couple of times with villager kiiruma and he doesn’t really do that? he plays a lot more emotionally, i feel

(like when he gladiated seth four hours into the game day in MHA mafia)

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#3773

was Seth town

#3774

oh no he just bullshits irrespective of allignment i’m just ignoring that bit because quite frankly rapidly changing his claim is what he does

if he comes back now to say that actually his role basically jailkeeps he’s 100% wolf though

#3775

if I told you that I think I know what his role was
and that his role is legitimately probably just that
what would you do

#3776

ask you to not talk about it further because we don’t need more claims right now?

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#3777

also since when has town Kiiruma rapidly started to change his claim

like, I have been in a lot of games with him, but I don’t think I ever seen him do that?

#3778

i have but. idk maybe i am just misremembering? i haven’t played mafia properly outside of mashes in ages

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#3779

I think you are misremembering? Or maybe I haven’t been in the games where he has done that. Are you perhaps thinking of non normal fm games where it’s encouraged to lie?

#3780

probably? anyway yeah he’s wolfing i’m down to toss him in a tie vote with someone else and let the PoE fight amongst themselve, because, you know. that’s what you do in Forum Mafia if you like winning

guy’s probably a wolf lmao, we agree on that

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