Mafia: Trials and Tribulations [Thread 1 - DO NOT POST]

ok proph can you talk to me about the leafia wagon beyond the reaction test? or frame that in a light where it’s wolf motivated as opposed to just a bad play because I’m having a really hard time seeing that

and i think we are all perfectly capable of coming back from a mis-yeet on Leafia

@lucky
why am I a wolf, give me a good response that isn’t paranoia that defies literal logic, or go back to making one of your 4d chess mechanical thoughts on how I am a wolf, because Occam’s razor is hearsay

I think you seem to have a misunderstanding here. There was wolf motivation to do that yesterday, if they were a wolf who had some other action that they did not want roleblocked. The problem that everyone had with the claim was the fact that passives normally aren’t blocked, which is why we thought they were a wolf at EOD there who wanted to do an extra action.

So let me be clear: the wolf motivation for claiming that they can be roleblocked is to do their wolf action.

However, there is wolf motivation for claiming that this was a reaction test - people thought that the claim was fake, so hiding the claim stuff behind a reaction test would make it seem like they are town for trying to catch wolves, and it has the additional benefit of explaining away the whole passive stuff.

The problem with their reaction test…is I don’t see what the villager motivation is. It seems like wolf leafia would get more out of fake claiming a passive that can be roleblocked than a town leafia who wants to do a reaction test. And some of leafia’s posts there legitimately looked like they actually feared being blocked, such as when they asked Eliza to redirect Kiiruma away from leafia.

I don’t think they are a wolf because they did a bad reaction test. I think they are a wolf because I don’t think town leafia thinks that more chaos is needed at EOD to catch the wolves. I think the reaction test wasn’t even thought of until after the day as well.

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Ok hmm I’m starting to actually lean Millium as town.
Litten is town.

Actually both Litten and Millium are starting to get what I’m getting at.

Anyway, Chloe/Marlu I’m pretty sure contains a wolf.
FrostWolf/Apprentice/Atlas contains at least 1 wolf.

we are

I exaggerated because I was emotional and felt like no one was listening to reason, I’ll try to watch what I say more carefully from now on

That’s where I am at/thinking of.

what was the game where leafia flipped mafia then said “im not a wolf”

i wanna skim that one as well

the AtE is super heavy in WoW:BfA2 - and she acted like the exact same there with all the “im never scum here and you know this,” “killing me today loses town the game,” “why would i do [x] as scum” (she did [x] as scum), etc.

so none of this is out of her scumrange

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imagine using white mode

Like I can’t tell if you are wolf trying to pose here or if your genuinely town in the same boat as me and Leafia.

Quite honestly, things you have said regarding all this is correct. I’ll admit it. I can even relate to allot your saying.

However, I still believe are a wolf as I have allot of reasons to think as such.

However, if we are all town then this is gonna be a hella of a struggle to pull out of and wolves literally have game winning Ml’s to push through here.

kill leafia and we move on, regardless of the outcome, we overcome, or we die fighting each other

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Millium if I vote Leafia and they flip town can you please not call it TMI.

Like if your going to shun/scum paint me like Litten did I’m not gonna vote.

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most reaction test/fps by wolves are easily found by looking at the villager motivation for doing something too, which is the exact opposite of what you hear parroted by people (look for the wolf motivation)

@Litten

I am.

half it is a joke, a high profile kill like this that flips town that ate up an entire day phase, of course I go back and think

but I dont think I will be alive for that

wolves usually use them to cover up their actions, see me fake claiming journalist when I didn’t know the town color and then later explained that I was actually town who was baiting wolves

I’ve concluded wolf motivation is in Chloe/Marl with FrostWolf/Apprentice/Atlas

I think this is plausible but I don’t find it particularly convincing either?

one of my main hangups is that wolves had tmi on leafia’s ability being genuine so they knew proph would be stumped and chose to kill their both n1 and n2 anyway. (when did leafia claim again? this is actually very relevant to the n1 kill attempt). I guess proph is around regardless so stabbing them is good. But if Leafia is a wolf you now have Proph around until Leafia dies which is a very scary prospect.

I think the one thing that is true is that wolves went into today being fine with Leafia dying. Whether they’re bussing or trying to ML they’ve had that goal since the start of the day.

proph was confirmed village though
killing someone else confirms another villager and gives them more creditability when they push stuff