Mafia: Trials and Tribulations [Thread 1 - DO NOT POST]

What do you mean by feedback mechanism? Also can you answer a question I had but didn’t ask to yo7 (instead just talking to wisp about it). Why did you find apprentince town reading wisp townie?

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So you believe there to be anti claim why?

Do you believe that is the case in every closed setup you join regardless if it doesn’t say so in OP?

Yes. I find it unlikely that a wolf would not only so blatently go up against me, while also playing the “I don’t care about the game” card. Feels silly. I also think that I have actually been on their mind most of the game via their reads list.

@Litten
What’s your read on Maria?

In role madness games, yes.

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I actually thought the OP might have said there was anti claim, but I may have been mistaken.

Anyways, I have to go to bed. Good night.

You’ve played at Atlas right?

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with*

So my main issue with Marl is that he just hasn’t really made much impact to the gamestate, and I feel like he would make more of an impact if he is actually town?

He’s been mostly fluffposting, saying hi to people, and has been kind of tapdancing around Leafia before sticking a vote on her later on. The last game I played with Marl (TvB), he had a slow start but really put his foot to the pedal and spamcleared himself. I’m not really seeing that Marl this game, so far?

I’m inclined to give Marl some room because he did lock himself into a claim, but I can’t really point to anything Marl has done that has been overtly townie thus far, and part of me thinks Marl himself would agree with this assessment? He’s been playing pretty lackadaisically.

Understandable.
Have a Day! :dash:

If Prop is wolf this game I think I’ll give them a PFP that will hopefully change their luck and give them Town.

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Feedback mechanism means some sort of indication that you’re on the right track. I feel like only half the players are actually playing this game/voting, which means that I don’t really have much to go on when it comes to trying to develop wagons for analysis and so on.

The reason why I thought Apprentice was town for reading Wisp as town based off of that is that I felt as if he placed himself in Wisp’s shoes when making that read. In addition, I just… don’t really see the scum motivation for wolf!Apprentice to make that read on a mostly throwaway post?

I feel like wolves are a lot more strategical with how they choose to townread people, and I certainly wouldn’t strongly townread a potential ML (if Wisp is town and Apprentice is a wolf) based off of that throwaway post.

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Is…this really how you think? Wolves can certainly be strategical with how they choose to town read people, but most wolves here, as far as I’m aware, don’t strategize that much with regards to who they read as what early on in the game, which is why I harped at that post. I understand what you mean by saying there’s very little scum motivation to read that post as town though, considering that there were like over a couple hundred posts probably by that time that they could have chosen from, but it wouldn’t be the strangest thing in the world.

…noted, I guess

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My problem with the post though was that it seemed like he failed to actually put himself into wisp’s shoes, though, and then seemed to believed later on that they actually succeeded at it. That’s why I questioned your read initially, because it felt weird to town read the post because of that, but now that you explain it more there seems to be more reasoning besides that

someone find an optimal vote now

problem
I can’t find an optimal vote

I’m really having trouble today because I feel like a quarter to half of the players in this game either do not care about winning this game, or are content to mostly waste their posts on topics that don’t help us find the wolves.

It makes it really hard to sift through because when I’m reading through people’s posts, I don’t know if they’re simply disinterested townies or wolves just coasting. I think for today, I’m just going to turbo the people who are active lurking and focus on consolidating my towncore.

The people who I currently feel comfortable with are (Apprentice, Icibalus, Wisp). I am also inclined to give (Lucky, Leafia) potentially a pass for today because they locked themselves into claims.


/vote Italy @Host_Account_3

Babel could also be substituted in here as well.

Play the game.

I like your style pro
Can I steal it

IIRC, I also liked how Apprentice flipped the script on Maria and started interrogating her about her vote on him. I dunno. He’s actively playing and trying to solve, and that’s good enough for me on Day 1 at least, when we have several players who are content to argue about meaningless topics or actively lurk.

I feel like Apprentice placed himself in Wisp’s shoes when he went “being town who was town last game and wants to be aware of someone who grossly misread them from specchat makes sense”, right?" It just feels odd for scum!Apprentice specifically to highlight this post that no one mentioned and use that a reason to potentially seal off a mislunch, as opposed to the more likely explanation which is that he’s town and made a real observation on Wisp’s alignment.

I know that wolves don’t always strategize that much on who they’re reading early on in the game, but if I’m a wolf and see that post from Wisp I’m much more likely to either ignore it, or use it as fodder to scumread Wisp by saying that he might be using it to discredit Italy. The fact that Apprentice kind of plucked the post from nowhere and used it to strongly townread Wisp is a good look for him I think?

Now if they were w/w together, it would be more interesting, but I don’t /believe/ that’s the case?

Actually found an optimal one

/Vote Marluxion @Host_Account_3

Reread his posts and I heavily disliked his reasoning for initially pushing Leafia there as it felt extremely forced. I expect Marluxion to be able to guess that there are probably four wolves in the game that aren’t a lost wolf because of the fact that there are 17 players and it makes little sense for there to be a lost wolf.

Proph also mentioned it but they really explained what I meant by marluxion being an alien and out of character - their posts lack the usual marluxion flare that I come to expect from him when he’s villager, so if he wants to use his fancy dancy special role he better start moving