Mafia: Trials and Tribulations [Thread 1 - DO NOT POST]

and more often than not we just hopefully get a wolf alongside a potential clear

finding two wolves is way less likely than w/v or v/v

personally i wouldnā€™t have outed that i had an ability that fired around ties and wouldā€™ve just worked to create one naturally, but what do i know? nothing. my thoughts are very socrtatescore sometimes

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right, just a gutread.

or Babel
the guy with even less content than italy

Ici are we allowed to discuss rolemadness design with you? :joy_cat: (assuming you have experience in what you can add and what you canā€™t add in a rolemadness)

vigis should pretty much always be hero shots or sbpc

thereā€™s a noticeable difference between my read reads and me thinking someone gives off bad vibes

iā€™m not doing rolespec right now but i am a semi-competent designer- i donā€™t want to waste time doing mechanical speculation on day 1 because thatā€™s quite frankly a huge waste of time

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Vigs should never hero shoot.

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iā€™ve won many games as vigi by hero shooting
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:wowee: it has never led me astray

but thatā€™s why iā€™m a hero and youā€™re a grass raccoon

Oh really? Care to quote that?

@Italy, who are the wolves?

Hero shooting has a high chance of killing villagers though.

what do you mean

/vote Italy @Host_Account_3

yeah iā€™m okay with just voting the low-content slot

Iā€™ve never seen Marl tunnel townies hard as wolf, he tends to do it as town though (Just like my champ @JohnCarter )

Itā€™s solid advice honestly, NAI but I can understand why youā€™d not want me to be just going for it and falling down a rabbit hole since thatā€™s something I usually end up doing quite easily. Take a really really weak townread from me.

Which statistically is a lot better than we have with others.
I have a few ideas what your tie-mechanics could be so Iā€™m still aiming towards there, not that I can personally help with it.
If Italyā€™s a 50/50 then thatā€™s much better than rand chances.

Leafiaā€™s outbursts are different almost every time theyā€™re a wolf. Iā€™ve experienced a few different ones and I still wouldnā€™t be at all surprised if theyā€™re a wolf. Nothing much has changed from my initial read except they have a bit more quality-to-post ratio.

Also Iciā€™s spiel on Leafia, Iā€™m fairly certain Iā€™m putting Ici as town there. Solid reasoning, casing as much in depth as possible even if I disagree with the conclusions occasionally dotted in there. I keep thinking back to Moison myself when it comes to them but the issue is, idk fully which of each hydra was posting and when so I could be extrapolating based off Leafā€™s old partner, onto them.

I would also like this to be whatā€™s tied tbh. Leafia/Litten or Leafia/Italy depending on preferences.
Iā€™m not sure how I feel about Litten since so far thereā€™s just a lot of ups and downs within their ISO and it feels like a gray area to conclude anything at.

Ah it seems your wish for my explanation on Marl was the main thing I missed from that catchup between posting on mobile and responding to what I thought seemed to be the truth for what people asked me.

If I may, I think that Marlā€™s claim (yes this is a weak part of my argument so donā€™t get too high strung that itā€™s coming first) is relatively townie because tying wagons typically is something thatā€™s frowned upon and Marl knows that themselves so they wouldnā€™t just be doing it for little reason. And if thatā€™s a wolf ability then I think that Marl would probably be more cautious than just announcing it out like they have. With my own thing for example, I had to mention mine due to the fact that I know itā€™s a fā€™ing scummy thing to do, but I also donā€™t have a choice and it sucks. Iā€™m basically having to be around at EoD so I can vote a vanity wagon without risk.

Anyway now that Iā€™m done with that basic thing, a lot of my read on Marl is trying to piece things together from our previous games and weā€™ve played now for many years together so I have a lot to go off on them, so much so that sometimes the lines blur, but Iā€™ve always been good at just looking at their posts and trying to get a feel ā€˜a vibereadā€™ off them, from what Iā€™ve seen and the vibes too I think Marlā€™s genuine but feels just so done with some things that theyā€™re pushing out harder than they usually do (Probably partially due to how Maria is acting as well).

Donā€™t forget that Marlā€™s a skilled player, if they were to stir the water thereā€™d have to be reasoning and motivation behind why they would and I just donā€™t see that reasoning as much, when it comes to their tirade. Between their reads, their strong reactions and their claim, I think theyā€™re solidly towny. I liked their opening quite a bit (Before Iā€™d started posting) and theyā€™ve not fallen off much for me.

Plus like Prophy my read on Marl gets better as days go on usually. And theyā€™ll be able to read me too I think.

Honestly yeah, a bit of a fair conclusion. I hadnā€™t responded more in depth until this post so thatā€™s an alright summary of what I put forth at the time.

if you have a read, why didnā€™t I see from your post? Do I have much fur on my eyes?

If the wolves are all LHF killing a villager wont matter because youā€™ll win anyway

Killing deep wolves is how games are saved