Mafia: Trials and Tribulations [Thread 2] - Day 7 (4/17) - Mafia Win!

[Frostwolf103]

Lucky is a bad wagon.

I know the plan is sound but its bad executed

[Litten]

Your completely different to your previous day too Richard lmao

[Frostwolf103]

However that is the consequence of voting Leafia out of the game too soon.

Mafia have no problem bussing Leafia because dead townies is revealing info they shouldn’t out it.

[CRichardFortressLies]

If this is for me, then it only told us that Lucky wasn’t bussing Babel because surprise he’s town.
Suppose Eliza was killed instead. Who would you have as the remaining team if town?
What if Eliza is scum?

[CRichardFortressLies]

I was expecting Italy to be the kill, because depending on their alignment it would by wagonomics confirm if Babel has a busser or not. If Italy is town, then Babel was bussed if Marl/Wisdom are both town.

[Litten]

@CRichardFortressLies

891 Leafia posts later. Nothing clearing Lucky from being partnered with Leafia.

@CRichardFortressLies

Also Lucky can absolutely be a Babel busser, as he has a history of hellbussing his buddies from the offsite game I posted in this thread.

@CRichardFortressLies

@Lucky

I’d rather vote Litten over Leafia tbh

You know, posts like this make Lucky/Leafia believable as scum partners.

@CRichardFortressLies

I’d rather not vote Italy yet, lets put up Lucky as a counter wagon.

/vote Lucky @The_Judge

@CRichardFortressLies

@Lucky

I have been thinking Atlas could be wolf.
But they could also play town as Atlas is very good at keeping a neutral posture early on as either alignments and can become more clear later so I didn’t worry too much about his slot for now.

But now that the “Anti-Claim” was brought up where it ain’t in the OP, I now know Atlas has Anti-Claim Information however.

1)Can still be town given this knowledge for something and potentially has to do with their own role.
2)Is a Wolf that has an Anti-Claim role in their team and didn’t care to read OP because they that it was already stated because of their role/mafia member role.

I hate this Atlas shade. This sounds like something scum would say to sow seeds of doubt on a townie for a possible misdefenestrate down the line.

@CRichardFortressLies

Why Lucky can be a Babel busser. In the Akemi Homura mafia, Gavial as he was known in game bussed his partner DrWilgy when it became obvious there was no saving them.
If I’m reading the thread state correctly, then it’s possible that wolf!Lucky would distance from Babel for towncred and yet not anticipate Atlas sniping the wolf KP at the last second.

Can anyone prove this is impossible if your name isn’t Lucky? I’d like to hear it now.

@CRichardFortressLies

Another way to look at it is this. If Lucky is a town double voter, why are the mafia not killing him?

@CRichardFortressLies

Oh yeah that’s true. Lucky’s double vote is proven from what I can tell, yet Lucky/Leafia interactions are starkly different from how Leafia has interacted with the flipped townies from what I can see.

@CRichardFortressLies

Weird that Leafia wasn’t talking to Lucky during the reaction test shenanigans. Yet she was talking to Litten a lot, which is rand not scum/scum.

@CRichardFortressLies

Lucky/Italy seems obvious, yet feels a little too easy.
Alright Lucky/Frost probably isn’t the solve as well.

@CRichardFortressLies

Honestly I’m not 100% confident that chopping Italy is a hit, and besides I rather not quick hammer.
Yet Italy flip will tell us if we’re on the right track or not.

What the fuck happened with all this? And lucky flip did the exact same thing

[Litten]

It wasn’t even an info lynch
I mean it kinda was
But it was an info lynch in the sense of “ARE WE RIGHT OR ARE WE WRONG?”

[CRichardFortressLies]

I wanted to prove/disprove my scum read on Lucky. In fact my unvote on Lucky should tell you that I found them towny enough before I went to bed.

[Frostwolf103]

Basically a gamble, you can kinda say that :)

[Frostwolf103]

Maybe and I dont know if I am vocal about not lynching Lucky for one reason and that is to prove his innocence if Eliza did indeed redirect Lucky or not.

Great info lynch

[Litten]

I want to keep thinking that if wisdom is scum then marl would have last night

[Litten]

I have, no doubt about Eliza redirecting it? I mean I understand what you are saying but

[Litten]

@Marluxion
talk to me about how Richard is outted again but like
put it into easy words to understand and concise

[Frostwolf103]

Lucky on other hand isnt so sure, werent you blocked the same night that Eliza used her ‘one-shot’ redirect that affects factional on Lucky > Wisdom ?

[Frostwolf103]

@Lucky

Wait so you saying you made me choose Wisdom over Italy?
Ew.

/Vote Italy
@The_Judge

@Litten you see what I mean?

[Frostwolf103]

So no Litten, lucky is indeed a bad wagon.

[Litten]

you are arguing that it was bad because Italy would tell us if Eliza redirected lucky to wisdom

I am arguing that the information is moot because I have zero doubt about Eliza claim in the first place

[Frostwolf103]

@Litten

you are arguing that it was bad because Italy would tell us if Eliza redirected lucky to wisdom

He did? Wtf am I reading then

[Frostwolf103]

Lucky intended to get double vote out of Italy.

[Frostwolf103]

So! Have Italy have been lynched instead of Lucky, lucky will able to tell if that his ability is indeed redirected or not.

You were also blocked N4, right? That happened in same night.