this
it goes like this, I get paranoid that Arctic is being genuine and then get relieved when I see signs that he is possibly genuine
… you get paranoia that he’s being genuine
yes, I’ve been on the short end of the stick too many times. It’s the curse of being a mix of paranoid and naive/trusting
besides I’m getting tired and have to fix my glasses tomorrow
@Arctic Chair of Deception- Game Thread (4/17) - Game Over! Unshackled, Trickster, and the Decadent King win - #6113 by Gorta check this game out, one of the points you use to call me scum is that “I’m acting like I did in Pokemon 9per”, which I was desperate, but I was also desperate here when I tried to get you on the town side. It also shows that I do try to win as town as well. I’m a fighter and you should know that
here is an example of the kind of reads I made in that game. I gave so few because I didn’t want wolves to be able to convert an universal town read
In hindsight my Atlas read reflects the mindset I was in when I made it, but the point still stands
I might try to word it better, I just need a chance here
alright so I have read the thread, nothing that’s been stated really changed my thoughts but now I’m unsure on who I want to kill between Cape and Gorta, part of me wants to kill Gorta because if he’s scum, Cape is guaranteed to be scum in my eyes and if he’s town we lose but for Cape I’m still weirded out on him and I still think the possibility of him being W/W with Prophy is high especially after whatever the fuck D3 was. Gorta’s reaction today can easily be a caught scum pairing trying their best to not lose the game for their team but it can just be a stressed out town at the same point.
basically, the AtE isn’t helping, @Gorta
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First, we are going to start with the shade. When Atlas subs in on There is light shade on me saying “Most of his ISO is empty promise’s/doing the same thing he did in railgun.” and the thing about this is, for better or for worse, I make promises that I forget about as either alignment. It’s not the best habit, but I do this all time and it’s strictly NAI. Then I’m not giving my reasoning or I’m using gut and tone according to Atlas. That’s something else that I do and it’s NAI. I might have missed it going over Atlas’ ISO again, but there is one point that Atlas says I rarely check wolf chat. The truth of the matter is that I usually have discord open when I’m on my pc at all times and in railgun I pretty much always had wolf chat open (even when I wasn’t in thread) even when I was in a call in a different server. I also tell my scum mates to tell me if I’m being too scummy and we police each other if it’s possible. Atlas knows this, in fact we just played a game as wolves together. @Arctic you can go back and verify that this is how I interact with my wolf mates in scum cord as well (I know you are in that chat). The big shade is the part about me always being lumped with Proph in all of Atlas’ posts calling me bad with a lack of reasoning. Cape somehow avoids being lumped with Proph for the most part despite being w/w with Proph (we will address this later). Atlas also spends a good portion of d4 and d5 trying to argue in circles with me. Tries to push my buttons and I keep taking the bait. Another point Atlas brings up is the part about my reads “lacking reasoning”, but like I said this indeed NAI. Take this post (I really don’t like Capy’s slot, but I’m not going to call them scum quite yet. The main reason being I don’t know them as a player well enough. There are a few posts that look like TMI and then there is the election thing. It seemed like Capy was too trusting of orange and wanted to split votes (but that’s me assuming scum here I guess)) from another game. It’s similar to my reads this game. I did do the same kind of reads in Railgun as well, but the point is they aren’t scum indicative.
Act 1: The Shade
(this was to Proph)
Is that so? Atlas has some interesting posts about both Proph and Cape. First off saying “I like whay they’re doing, but have no reason to townread them” about Proph and “This is the scumread I have least info on, but what he’s doing isn’t good”. Now, this is some interesting wording considering the lack of reasoning Atlas has for scumreading and pushing Proph and Cape. As the images of Proph and Cape get worse so does Atlas’ opinion on them without coming up for much reasoning why, why is an interesting question because it’s been used to say “I’m a wolf” this game. So why is Atlas getting a pass for writing BS about these two? No one stopped to ask Atlas for reasoning regarding Proph or Cape. We know Cape is a wolf at this point. I was wrong about Proph, but there is an obvious connection between Proph and Cape. What does Atlas say? Atlas says I should go next over Cape several time. Why is that? Why is Atlas saying I should flip before the obvious wolf from the last flip? Even though Atlas says Cape has been obvious wolfing for two days now why is it that I should flip first according to Atlas? I’ll make a conclusion later in the post, but I want y’all to know that Wazza is full of bs. I have just one more pass to go of this damn ISO.
Act II: Proph/Cape
Atlas actually has a bit of hedge in the reads here. Kii is townread for the gladiate “unless someone told him to scum chat like Arctic”, Wazza is purely town just by mechanics according to Atlas, and Arctic is “either a wolf or is leading the town to a loss”. Atlas later says that Wazza is mechanicily confirmed, but “don’t trust it”. Mist is down with me and gets pushed over the other people in the “Inner PoE” such as me or Cape. Now, why doesn’t Atlas push Cape here over Mist? There isn’t as much to say here. I’m just pointing out that Atlas tries planting seeds on several people who are “lock town” to Atlas now.
Act III: The Good The Bad and the Hedge
[quote=“Atlas, post:2823, topic:1424, full:true”]
Funny thoughts
This looks good but is probably nai
Anyone can fake reasonable posts (or I’d assume mist knows how)
And a bunch of other d1 posts
I believe she was also the first to vote sleep
Why is she making logical sense i hate this
(This is me from 6 minutes after I wrote this but I can think of one thing, iso causes a lot of chaos which would be better to leave alive especially if wolve’s were confident in there being no doctor or somethong but why’d she nk him, it’d only make sense if he started to be a threat but it is literally seth)
D1, she starts petitioning for sleep, and saying its v/v
This only makes sense to do as wolf to try and get towncred (which you’d get none so might as well let town do it) or if kiiruma’s w/w with her
Im gonna keep this in mind
It’s where she starts complaining about (arctic?) pushing her that I feel it gets bad
Admittedly I don’t think the push was founded (she for me was null/nulltown at this point when i was reading ongoing d1), but it’s still strange nonetheless
Speaking of this, why would he consider that, it’s extremely unlikely something like that exists and would get passed especially if seth is a wolf
Eli got hunter (im calling it hunter bc i forgot the actual name) in as a town role but eh
… why
… why
You’ve not been super towny to this point, and I don’t consider Arctic scumreading you to be completely locking you in (which i believe he clarified after)
[quote=“Mistyx, post:2078, topic:1424”]
I disagree with me here
Lack of content is probably nai especially considering she specified earlier
In conclusion:
It’s a bit funny don’t you think that, despite being an obvious wolf who has missed being executed for several days (in Atlas’ own words), Cape is the one who Atlas thinks should get voted out last. In my opinion this reeks of PoEing and pushing two wolves and voting the villager over the wolves in the PoE. I know this is subjective because Atlas pushes my slot the most here, but I find the lack of trying to vote Cape, the handling of Proph and Cape scummy, and the seeds that it looks like Atlas tries to plant when it comes to some of the other slots for the reasons listed in detail above.
I already pinged Arctic in my initial post, but I cleared my mind and decided to look at the overall picture and not case from as much stress/anger. Hopefully I have got my thoughts out in a more coherent manner this time
Cape has disappeared (much like Proph did), which has coincidentally left it open for Atlas to focus on pushing me. In my eyes Cape is guaranteed wolf at this point. I’m starting to think that the whole “get caught keep quiet” thing is an interesting little trend.
My issue with this is that Cape has disappeared literally all game, also the fact it’s only been like 12 hours since they posted which isn’t enough time to consider them as just being gone
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also I’ve read like half your post so I’m going to get back to it
my head hurts reading it though
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I guess you can give it time, but Cape was here earlier plopped a vote and left while not showing back up yet
You don’t have to open the extensions if you want a quick reading, but the boxes are the quotes if you want to see what I derived my post from. I would recommend reading the whole thing though
what
he meant Atlas pretty sure