I really should go to bed, @Arctic if you have any questions for me just ping me
i dont have any questions for you i doubt i am reconsidering this game anymore
Like itâs negative utility the tiniest bit, but I donât see Gortaâs points that it should fakeclaim a stronger PR or something.
Oh no, Atlas visits someone and so may potentially confuse a watcher.
It doesnât need to claim early or avoid claiming either, itâs not like wolves would (In an Atlas T World) kill Atlas anyway due to people sussing the slot. So us âGetting rid of sleepwalkerâ wouldnât have worked unless weâd have just decided to vote them out D1 or D2. And in that case weâre wasting a day to get rid of negative utility which isnât so negative that we should be doing that anyway
i agree but i dont think itâs impossible for village gorta to think this
i just think he would have better reasons for his scumreads at this point
especially from being on the receiving end of one of his tunnels before
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Itâs not, I can agree with that. But once again Gortaâs doing something which doesnât seem logical, except maybe to Gorta themselves⌠which is the whole point I suppose, ugh.
I just, Gorta usually has more logic behind their reads, something we can see at least and itâs just not good
honestly iâm less concerned about the logic and more about the conviction
i donât think heâs ever been logical, but he usually has at least something to base his thoughts on and something which shows he really believes in them
today i havenât seen either
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Thatâs sorta what Iâm trying to get at by logic, his âbasisâ for his thoughts and reads
what do you think as for the rest of the poe
Since if itâs his actual role, why tf not claim it, itâs also a decently common role on this site as Iâve made clear already
there is motivation behind not claiming as town but not as wolf
there is motivation behind claiming as both town and wolf
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I canât account for that, there were 2 players in the slot before that, at some point as a replacee itâs not ideal
but non-ideal play doesnât mean someone is mafia aligned
I mean
What does he lose from claiming it realistically?
Also you guys keep saying catbaeâs role proves itâs existence when it really justâŚdoesnât? If catbae was a watcher then Iâd understand it but they arenât, theyâre a motion detector who for some reason didnât even choose Atlas
at that point, not a lot
but itâs understandalbe why he wouldnt claim earlier
This as well, mafia also would have reason to claim it early
I just donât see the timing making sense
Town also have a reason to claim it early considering he himself considered it negative utility
Why didnât Night or YBW claim or even soft it?
He was forced to claim a PR as well to add onto this so you canât use the âWell why didnât he just claim VT as wolfâ argument
night did
âŚbecause it interferes with a motion detector. Which kind of sucks, honestly, because it completely screws up my results if I get unlucky, but it makes sense as existing in the game
Further, why on earth would I target Atlas? Even a confirmed motion result explicitly tells me nothing. I tried for someone who was unlikely to be targeted so I could potentially get a no motion, which is at least marginally useful