just interested if arctic picked out anything remotely alignment indicative from you from your SoD
what
I read this as āYou were wolfreading wazza and I was due to gutā
yeah thatās basically what i was getting at
i donāt know whether kiiruma has the balls to do this as a wolf, but it is still a possibility and not something i really want to outright ignore
well iāll talk about the seth head
basically his first few posts this game were pretty similar to hydra popcorn where he opened with aā¦ weirdly elated series of seemingly random fluff posts
but his approach after that was slightly different, he became more appeal-y and, as an example, nudged my slot and a couple others to get them to interact with him
this game it doesnāt really seem like heās trying to appeal to anyone
iām not super locked on this read, because later in the day he ended up antagonizing a few people
realistically they could go in, my reasons for leaning them town are pretty weak. i think they are tonally in their town meta. i also think wolf wazza would have been quite happy to let kiiruma keep rambling on about mech -perhaps to get him to unintentionally spew whether or not he was a strong role. kiiruma has a problem with slipping up as a PR extremely early and wazza is well aware of this, and iāve seen her dig deeper into these situations where people bring up mech, e.g. atlas claiming sorc in sorc17 led to wolf wazza interrogating him as part of her opener
that post was addressed to mistyx, wazza
mistyx had an earlier post where she thought either me or you was a wolf
Man itās been nice to just watch how people think here.
I was not exaggerating my read before, nor has the confidence of it actually changed.
I still believe Seth is W. Iām just seeing how yall feel there too and itās been interesting.
But itās fine, if yall truly want sleep for now, so be it.
This is W!Seth whoās been able to sit back for now, I do believe that. But the good thing to me is just how much content, due to this, that has been gained. And later on should we re-eval, or at least, should yall do so, then things will be pretty spicy afterwards 
but if i had to answer this with a āyesā or ānoā i would say yes
i think seth is probably a bit more chaotic as a villager than as a wolf
oh ok, thank you for your explanation
yeah i can agree with seth not really appealing to anyone in this game, as evidenced by him mostly ignoring me and continuing to push the (catbae ybw cape) wolfteam
got it re: wazza. i was just surprised you didnāt have her as part of your poe given that i thought she was being kinda overexplainy and jumpy at the start, and that she hasnāt really made an ~impact~ on the gamestate yet
the more you ease out of your read the more i want to vote you
Oh Iām not easing out of it.
Iām just enjoying the flow.
If it helps I think youāre securing a townread because I donāt see you going in this hard for protecting a partner D1. Especially Seth
at the moment the only slot that gives me bad vibes is catbae, mostly because i think the way they pushed on me was quite disingenuous (he thinks that my unaligned pair observation and the way I asked arctic about it is busywork, whenā¦ i was actively interested in his response as to why he thought the early interaction between wazza/lol was not w/w)
kind of want to see where he goes with his probing of cape/wazza before actively interrogating him myself though
she is going to deny this read, but generally the less of an impact she has on the game, the more likely she is to be a villager because she cares much more about seizing thread control as a wolf. yes she has been more engaged in recent games as a villager, but i would not put it on the same level as the engagement i see from wolf her
lol whyās that? i am pretty gung ho on defending wolf buddies since i know people listen to me and exploiting that is pretty easy.
Because first of all, itās D1. Second of all, itās Seth.
Third of all, I did this 4 hours in for a multitude of reasons, not just a snap āangerā one, including seeking to test reactions towards who I thought could genuinely be a Wā¦ and youāve been going far too hard. Youāre skilled Arctic, you donāt do this as hard as you did on D1.
okay
yeah the only game iāve seriously played with wazza i replaced in and hard-shielded her from what it felt like the millions of rabid players chomping at the bit to lunch her
then we had to vig her because she was red checked
Also fwiw, I knew that some people would think of me in Dicey Dungeons when I rolled this role. So when Mist briefly said āDo I really need to look at that gameā all I could do was laugh internally
I think Gladiator is pretty alright, but me having it would often mean Iād slip PR quickly or people would look to games like that just because I was gladiator in both. When thereās kinda a difference
donāt see how either of these are relevant ā the first has never stopped me before and i actually think seth is a pretty decent wolf
i donāt feel like iām going hard about anything, at least compared to last game
but yes i am pretty sure on seth being town
anyways iām fine with continuing to low effort for now
still pretty peeved that the d1 execution just went poof
iāve never really played with gladiators before nor had them in my games and itās just not a good role imo from a game design perspective
if you give it to a townie itās just negative utility because limiting the townās execution choices is bad and if you give it to a wolf then youāre giving the wolves a measure of control over the townās strongest weapon which is bad
but w.e this isnāt related to the game just wanted to rant
thought process reads doesnt work on seth
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see this is whats wrong with mafia who does this shit this guy is deranged
well, i know trying to ask seth to explain his reads is pretty useless
so meta isā¦ one of the last tools i have left
how do you think you should read him?
Last post I will have engaging with you, then Iāll take a few hours away from the game, then Iām going to come back and treat it like a normal game and ignoring you.
If you say anything to me, beyond respond to this post in particular, itās just on you at this rate.
First of all, letās start by showing what happenedā¦
When you first posted, your first post was saying that Arctic and Squirrel were town, while Squirrel had yet to post at that rate. You continued to say random bullshit to Kii, who responded by getting pissed and using his Gladiator ability, and I said this:
Does this not resemble a townread? Doesnāt āToo wolfy to be a wolfā read mean ātownā?
I rarely fucking use that read in general because that read flat out sucks and wolves can get by based off of that shit, one of the few things Illario and I agree on.
Do you think you shouldāve been townread when even you agreed that your posts were garbage?
But then I stated that I would back off and let Kiiruma do what he wants because Iāve seen Kiiruma be correct on scumreads for about 3 or 4 games in a row, so if he is town I donāt want to get in his way.
Then your next post was this-
Which meant you valued my opinion, especially when youāre asking this shit, which contradicts anything you say in terms of me not being a great town player.
You also asked me this during the Hydra game and we were wolf partners.
We had this interaction:
I asked you this question because I wasnāt sure if you were saying to not yeet Squirrel because of him being good at the game if he was town, or heās your friend, or what the fuck ever reason you wantedā¦and you replied with that garbage instead of any explanation what so ever.
Then you switch and vote Squirrel with Misty and fuck around.
Then you decide to randomly say this, again, without any explanation what so ever.
You say next to nothing besides tunneling Kiiruma to the point where he decides to gladiate you-
Which you immediately backed off of and started townreading him which meant that you probably got scared and tried to switch your scumread hoping Kiiruma backed off as well.
You donāt mention me untilā¦
Which that post was entirely a joke post, which mafia members question or scumread joke posts from town because they need to shade anything in hopes that attention and wagons go to them.
So in reality, this started off with me townreading you, and you scumreading and tunneling me. So if anyone was at fault here, itās you because you started this bullshit first.
Donāt give me this āyour read on me is shitā because YOU were the one that started scumreading ME, not the other way around.
In one game you tunneled Alison the entire game and you were a wolf.
In another game you tunneled Mac in the first half of the game and you were a wolf.
This is entirely in your scum meta and youāre just lying to get out of getting voted out.
Also youāre saying āask Debilā as heās townreading me and youāre shutting it down, so unless you want everyone to start taking his reads seriously, then shut the fuck up about me when he mentions me being town.
Like Iāve been saying before, Iāve read you 100% in games. Even YOU have admitted this.
Have you seen your own iso? Youāve been a dick this entire game to me, so I responded back.
Donāt need one, if youāre a misfire then it isnāt on me.
If youāre a wolf and you donāt get yeeted, it isnāt on me either.
People have listened to my hard shields and never vote the people I have a strong confidence townread on. They might not listen to me on my scumreads yet, but that will come when they realize Iām right more times than when Iām wrong.
The second thing is absolute BULLSHIT. When Iām town, Iām obvious town to everyone and Iām on the top of everyoneās read list. Read any game Iām town in MafiaUniverse or MafiaSyndicate. Iāve told you already Iāve only been mislynched ONE TIME and Iāve been playing nonstop since January of 2021. Even when I was NEW to forum mafia I was strongly townread by nearly everyone in the game. Iāve been N1ād extremely often over big named players, including by YOU when you were mafia.
Nope, Iām good.
You donāt know me. I actually refrain from being an asshole and AtEāing as mafia because I feel bad fucking with peopleās emotions and upsetting them when forcing them to lose.
The only time I was an asshole while being mafia was during Poisonous game to Kiirumaā¦annnd I think Iāve made it up to him mostly since that game.
Have you explained anything at all?
By the way you keep saying youāre not tunneling me, then youāre saying this shit soā¦do you know what ātunnelingā is?
Honestly dude, you are probably a wolf doing this bullshit, but youāve ATEād and shitpushed your way to making people NOT want to yeet you despite you making this game completely unbearable to play by being incredibly toxic. Iām not the type to stoop this low as a wolf, but you definitely are.
If youāre town, then, holy shit.