Netrunner Mafia - Game Over: Mala Tempora

Fake read is exactly that, a fake read. They made it up to poke the thread at early D1, and obviously it worked since we are having this convo

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Exactly what it sounds like? I dont think eliza did that with any intention of actually going somewhere with that push

In that case why did you add that hedge to your post? You said you didn’t think Eliza had malicious intent earlier in the post itself

if i make an overly-waffle-y post, i sometimes read it over before posting to check that it actually makes sense. i don’t for most posts though. as for the second thing, i don’t intentionally frame my posts in a way that i think will get me townread, but i do try to avoid saying stupid shit that will get me wolfread without adding anything of value to the game. some people say i post to get townread, but i think this is because i try to make the content/post ratio as high as possible so people waste less time reading through fluff.

yeah, i understand. think this game might be difficult tbh.

How is saying “from my point of view” ever a hedge? Sure, it was redundant and bad grammar from me but thats no more hedgy then just the “i think” by itself

I agree, at least for me, this game is gonna be hard

Hmm interesting thanks for confirming
This is uh something I didn’t think would be the case for you considering your tone was so freeflowing

Maybe I’ll try asking from a different angle. Why “which wasan’t what they did from my point of view.” rather than “which it didn’t seem like they were doing” or something like that?

¯\(ツ)/¯

Idk what to say, i wrote what came to my head, its not like i studied and revised that post for hours before posting it. Cant really tell you why i didint pick any of those other options (especially considering they are more gramatically sound)

feel like caspore could be a dark horse here potentially, given they clearly have some experience in IRL mafia and there’s a possibility of coaching here obviously due to the nature of the game…

i don’t wolfread their posting, everything they’ve posted just feels easy enough.

maybe this is towny though idk?
welp.

I guess I couldn’t really ask for a better answer lol
It’s the kind of post that sets out my penguin alarm bells because it’s so…stacatto for lack of a better word? The style of saying “which wasan’t what they did” and then adding “from my point of view” rather than a more natural flow
But for some reason I like you calling your own post ungrammatical lmao
weh

penguin, you’re kinda doing the same thing now that i’ve been accusing you of lol. do you seriously think prying into this wording choice is useful? it’s what i mean when i say that i don’t buy that the lines of inquiry you decide to take are actually going to be conducive to solving the game. part of me wants to say the fact you keep doing it in spite of the backlash is twtbaw, but it doesn’t really feel like actual solving.

you brought up that this is a playstyle thing so idk. it still feels kinda excessive

though i guess maybe this makes sense, to you??

i’m definitely giving some wolves the benefit of the doubt here lol. anyway bye for real

maybe it does, and i dont like calling people wolfy for their solving process (especially when its been done to me several times). I’ll go through some previous penguin games later to see if this deviates from his usual play but i dont think it will, i think this is just normal penguin

oh for f*ck sakes it his first game

Yes, I do. We can talk about it more once the point in the game arrives where I stop doing it as much if you’d like

Yeah I haven’t played on FoL since the new FoL came about lol
FoL penguin tended to lie somewhere between my homesite and how I played on MU but also you’re getting that plus 2+ years of rust that leads me to doubt my vibereads so this is going to be a fun time lmao

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The part i understand is looking into the wording. I think penguin is looking for signs of “unnatural progression” or “excessive hedge”, basically anything that could indicate a post was fabricated.

Is that how i would approach FM? No. But that i can understand and i dont think its wolfy, its most likely NAI

The part i dont understand is asking people why they used a certain word over alternatives, because i dont think you can reasonably expect someone to be able to answer that.

I’ll go double check with MU later but due to how old it’ll be it probably wont help much

Yes

I don’t expect people to answer that exact question but I do expect that a response says something about what do you think you are communicating vs what am I reading
E.g. in your case I read “from my point of view” I read it as a synonym of “because I am a townie” and if that was what you meant that post would be a snapvote that I’d probably keep the entire day but to you the phrase doesn’t seem to have that significance and so I don’t think the hedge is vote-worthy

Fair warning that what you’ll get from MU is a penguin who was always one of the lowest posters in thread and thus spent more time catching up than interacting lol
Which is what tended to happen with me on FoL as well except this game is going slowly so I actually have time to do that