Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

[Estelle]

@Era

@Estelle

Regarding Rune, I’ve read through their posts a couple more times and I don’t really see the motivation behind pushing Atlas if they were mafia. I said previously that I could see rune and one of drek/Juno being w/w but I reread their posts and thought more about it and realized that they have been paying more attention to the game today compared to yesterday, and they gave other reads on people itt today too, If they wanted to execute someone they would have an easier time picking someone else as they already shown they are paying attention.

That’s the thing, though… the “someone elses” are all people I think have a solid chance of flipping saboteur. My case is that Rune’s doing this because he cannot have that as the PoE.

I thought about it - unconvinced that Rune has to do this if they are mafia here. Assume they are mafia - they have one other partner in the game. There are still a lot of other people that could make easier pushes on, compared to Atlas. In fact I would argue that pushing against Atlas makes more sense as town here in order to combat what he perceived as Apathy today, and the previous day.

If Drek/Juno is T/T all they have to do is jump on one of them to get further along into the game. If one of them is a wolf all they have to do is jump against the town, or go against an easier to push town to try to execute. Pushing against Atlas seems like too much of a bold move for too little gain.

[Era]

Who do you think are the saboteurs?

[Estelle]

The main reason people are pushing against Rune is that he’s been pushing people they believe are town - which, is not a bad metric to go by, but that is generally applicable to experienced people who are good at reading people - which, I don’t know their experience level, and their reading ability may be hampered in this game, or I might be misreading the people they are pushing/defending, ect.

I’m lost in the sauce in my own thoughts atp but I believe that the scum itg probably don’t care about changing anything - I don’t have concrete evidence for this but the game state feels dead and stale and I generally asssociate that with that type of game state

[Estelle]

Honestly?
Not sure.

I thought Drak’ar was mafia earlier in the day, but they haven’t come back and I’m starting to get cold feet on that read. I’m going to be spending majority of my time today reading to figure out the answer to that question.

[Estelle]

@X_OS
What do you want to do today?
I’ve read through your posts for today, and I noticed that you said that you didn’t feel like you had anything to add to the conversation. Add something to the conversation by explaining what you want to do today, and then trying to do it.

[X_OS (X)]

ATM it’s Ai.Mi and Juno

[Era]

The only thing stopping me from pushing Ai.Mi here (the one slot nobody seems inclined to defend, and also in everybody’s PoE) is the fact they have a parity check to give us tomorrow and I would like that. I alluded to this yesterday already, but I might as well say it outright at this point.

[Era]

@Estelle

I believe that the scum itg probably don’t care about changing anything - I don’t have concrete evidence for this but the game state feels dead and stale

I feel like we could - and probably should - play faster, to be honest… I don’t think the gamestate necessarily has anything to do with wolves feeling comfortable, it’s just that we take our time a lot. Which isn’t inherently bad, but that time is pretty limited. A little over 5 days doesn’t look like much to me to play the entire rest of the game…

[X_OS (X)]

I think Juliette in fact said said who but I forgot. Will try to find it after I’ve read the recent posts

[Estelle]

Something I want to note is that still, executing a wolf ke extremely oppressive and opens up the game, Jail keeper starts forcing no kills or getting mech clears on people, sheriff starts to become insanely powerful - if we execute a wolf then we force wolves to resolve both the sheriff and jail keeper for us, while we have roles that can keep them alive

[X_OS (X)]

Same, Juliette was actually one of my stated possinle targets but hoped that scum would just be discouraged from visiting them at all

[Era]

Were you not concerned about knocking out competitors?

[Estelle]

Tonight I want you to use a charge on me. Scum want to knock me out if they want to use their powers - if I die I’m blaming you, if no one else dies as well.

[X_OS (X)]

Same

[X_OS (X)]

Oh it was this post.

I read this as a claim of picking Era but apparently Era doesn’t know who Juliette picked so nvm

[Estelle]

Era, I recommend doing the same action that you did last night. If you reread what I just asked you should understand why…

[Era]

@Estelle

Something I want to note is that still, executing a wolf ke extremely oppressive and opens up the game

It is, but people are defending the people I’m wolfreading, so I can’t actually get my wolves executed.

I’ve done a fair bit of defending myself, but I don’t think I was stretching at all when doing so.

[Era]

@Estelle

Era, I recommend doing the same action that you did last night. If you reread what I just asked you should understand why…

I’m not sure if that’s necessary. If I don’t repeat it and something happens, someone will be outed.

To people not named Estelle

I feel weird being so evasive with my mechanics, but in this case I have to be elusive.

[Estelle]

@Era

I’m not sure if that’s necessary. If I don’t repeat it and something happens, someone will be outed.

To people not named Estelle

I feel weird being so evasive with my mechanics, but in this case I have to be elusive.

Okay then

[Asher]

Votecount

Rune (3): Era, Luna, Dubu
Drekar (1): Juno
Juno (1): Drekar
Atlas_OS (1): Rune

Not Voting (4): Ai.Mi, Atlas_OS, Estelle, X

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