Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

[Juliette]

I will read your posts in a bit Estelle but I appreciate the responses and if you are a competitor, I will do my best to find you. Just skimming, your tonal responses make me step back a bit, but I will have to read your responses with due diligence.

The elephant in the room no one has talked about yet and I thought Atlas would as our calm leader, but how should we go about the day time and the voting? Anyone has any thoughts on how long we should cap ourselves for day and when a good time to hammer would be?

Secondly, any thoughts on certain roles that should at least live to the next day just based on their utility? I know it may seem weird, but for optimal reasons, if certain roles are competitors, that would be a huge mech boost for us and +ev to keep. So I am wondering if anyone feels the same way about that, or if it shouldn’t matter the role?

[Drekar]

My current GTH read on Era is very slightly competitor. While I think their reaction to my criticism of their slot was superficial and feels like they didn’t even read my post. I can understand having a short temper with those that cast doubt towards ones moral character. And the other points that Era has made in particular towards Estelle felt probing and combative in a townie manner.

[Juliette]

Era is officially my mason. Melding pretty hard with reads right out of the gate.

I will say Era that you seem to be way more comfortable than you were about 2 hours ago? If you feel that way, why is that you think?

[Juliette]

Forgot to add this

[Rune]

VOTE: Era

I think that Era town-locking Atlas in #145 was opportunistic and out of place. The game began a little under 3 hours ago and Atlas presented reasoning as to why Estelle could be scum. Instead of discussing it, Era just jumps to a town-lock and sheeps the vote with nothing to add.

Yes, I agree that Atlas is pretty towny but not because he made a push.

[Drekar]

Actually. No.
This prompted me to double check what happened to Era’s probing into Estelle, and it dissolved simply because of a misunderstanding of whom Estelle was talking about?

And Era’s points about me feel like they weren’t reading my post?

That’s two strikes against Era for superficial takes that really shouldn’t have happened had they been reading more closely. I retract my previous GTH. GTH Era is a saboteur

In fact

VOTE: Era

[Rune]

Hah, I beat you to voting Era.

[Estelle]

mildly villagery nuance

[Drekar]

You have failed to provide me with additional ammunition to attack you with, and so for now I have no choice but to reconsider. Do not get comfortable with this temporary peace, for I am quite easily provoked.

[Juliette]

So do you think Estelle is town? And if so, why?

Additionally, which parts from Era did you feel was fluff in regards to their conversations with Estelle? Didn’t Era also discuss their feelings about Estelle before Atlas even brought it up? If I am not mistaken, Era voted first. So why is it bad that Era town reads Atlas when this all happens after Era’s initial reads on Estella.

Additionally, I am pretty sure Era was town locking Atlas for the way he presented the scum read on Estella, not the actual sr on Estella.

[Juliette]

@Era

Disregarding the rest of the post, I believe this is towny and I am locking Atlas as town from this. This is an inherently towny mindset that mafia members usually don’t think to fake. I think you should be able to tell what I mean here without me explaining it…

@Rune, It is clear that Era is town reading the mindset/presentation of the way Atlas approached the scum read. Not the actual scum read on Era itself.

[Era]

@Juliette

Era is officially my mason. Melding pretty hard with reads right out of the gate.

I will say Era that you seem to be way more comfortable than you were about 2 hours ago? If you feel that way, why is that you think?

I’ve been comfortable the entire time… I just decided it was better to engage with the game more than I usually do.

@Drekar

My current GTH read on Era is very slightly competitor. While I think their reaction to my criticism of their slot was superficial and feels like they didn’t even read my post.

I just explained it more, perhaps you should read the explanation.

[Era]

@Juliette

Forgot to add this

[Era]

@Rune

VOTE: Era

I think that Era town-locking Atlas in #145 was opportunistic and out of place. The game began a little under 3 hours ago and Atlas presented reasoning as to why Estelle could be scum. Instead of discussing it, Era just jumps to a town-lock and sheeps the vote with nothing to add.

Yes, I agree that Atlas is pretty towny but not because he made a push.

I think you’re missing some context… Did you read the whole thread, or just my ISO?

[Era]

@Drekar

Actually. No.
This prompted me to double check what happened to Era’s probing into Estelle, and it dissolved simply because of a misunderstanding of whom Estelle was talking about?

And Era’s points about me feel like they weren’t reading my post?

That’s two strikes against Era for superficial takes that really shouldn’t have happened had they been reading more closely. I retract my previous GTH. GTH Era is a saboteur

In fact

VOTE: Era

It didn’t quite dissolve, I just chose to pursue another target because I made a mistake. Atlas’s posts later made me reconsider and realize that my other points still stood, so I changed my vote again. I’m not someone who throws her weight around and spearheads pushes left and right…

[Juliette]

To your first point, do you dislike how Era/Estelle conversation dropped after the miscommunication? And if so, why?

Additionally, is not paying attention inherently scummy? Sure it’s not a good thing to not pay attention, but is there a reason you feel them asking for clarification on what you said is scummy in this case?

If I remember, I also didn’t fully see your reason to sr Luna initially.

[Era]

@Era

I think you’re missing some context…

The reason I’m saying this is that my push on Estelle came first, so you accusing me of sheeping Atlas doesn’t fit the events. I only followed his vote after he said more about Estelle because I came to realize that my case held more merit than I thought it did after its weakest point (by Atlas’s definition) was countered.

[Era]

I suppose I should add that I might come across as more comfortable now because there is a group of people I trust, which wasn’t the case at the very start. It definitely makes me feel better to have people that I can support.

[Estelle]

@Juliette

The elephant in the room no one has talked about yet and I thought Atlas would as our calm leader, but how should we go about the day time and the voting? Anyone has any thoughts on how long we should cap ourselves for day and when a good time to hammer would be?

48 hours. Max.
That’s the amount we should spend today.

[Atlas_OS (Atlas)]

Ideally no more than 36.

However, I wasn’t going to open up with that information or thoughts until later. I figured the first 12 hours people shouldn’t be concerned with time ticking as that creates a sense of urgency and people forcing reads when they shouldn’t.