Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

What was ur era read again

apologizes btw in advance, donā€™t expect in-depth analysis for the rest of the day

tho I guess no one was expecting that anyway but

Do you think Drekā€™s likely target is a wolf?

[quote=ā€œAi.Mi, post:572, topic:4080ā€]
The long and short of it is that I think Era has been presenting themselves as something different than they are. There are two instances near the beginning of the day where I think this is especially true:

This is a perfectly nothing post, until taken within the context of Atlasā€™ original accusation. Atlas voted Era because they believed their early approach was ā€œreactiveā€- AKA they saw Era posting emojis and not seriously solving in the first 50 posts of the game. I have no issue with Era doing that, I basically did the same thing. But I think in response to this accusation Era attempted to portray themselves as having a deeper meaning behind opening shitposts besides just opening shitposts. They say that they ā€œdonā€™t like the spotlightā€, implying that shitposting is a deliberate strategy in this instance, and also throw out a roleplay excuse ā€œread the report on me if you donā€™t believe meā€.

I do not believe either of these explanations explains Eraā€™s early shitposting, I think they were just having fun (and I expressed at the time that I didnā€™t understand why Atlas found that objectionable). But attempting to explain this fun as something more than it was is what originally set off alarm bells about Era. In my opinion, this is an attempt to embellish their play, and make it seem more meaningful than it actually was.

The next issue I took with their posts came in #95 and subsequent posts. They tear into Estelle in an interesting way, and seem to be building confidence for a vote there. I like this energy from them, and they follow it up with #96 with a vote on Estelle. One of their points in #95

A note on that second point, I keep being told some variation of ā€œoh itā€™s already been explainedā€, or ā€œitā€™s obvious!ā€ And no, itā€™s not obvious to me. I still donā€™t understand how your reply to their vote invalidated their reasoning for the vote. It seems unrelated to me.

I think thereā€™s value in getting a shot off, whether poe town or wolf. The point is not that vig will always suspect wolf, just that Iā€™ve been in games where vig has regretted not shooting.

ok ai.mi can be town.

Rune_Comfy

the lack of a kai vote was one thing but after the effortpost + response about the shot Iā€™m fine putting you out of my poe.

As far as what you said, on the fence about era because Iā€™m not exactly sure if theyre a just a scummy town. luna, dubu and juno are pure chaos energy 9 times out of 10 so im lost there too.

again, fmpov kai was pretty obviously town so Iā€™m just wondering who the wolves are from that wagon. didnt help that it was fueled by directionless apathy.

That particular example Iā€™m thinking of is funny too because itā€™s really applicable to this situation, more so than Iā€™ve described, and itā€™d be perfect to link it and talk about it. But weā€™re anonymous, RIP

I like Luna for a variety of reasons, but I think their energy is just right where Iā€™d want a townie to be. I can feel them really caring about peopleā€™s alignment. Like I said, their post responding to you felt very genuine. I know the vote is on you so itā€™s not gonna be good from your pov, but I feel the hard shield that Luna is attempting to place on Era.

I think itā€™d be kinda cool if Atlas was a wolf.

Kai_OS (7): Luna, Juno, Estelle, Dubu, Era, Atlas_OS, X
Era (2): Rune, Ai.Mi
Ai.Mi (1): Juliette
Juno (1): Drekar

Not Voting (1): Kai_OS

Guess thatā€™s the good thing about majority over plurality. Retrospectively nearly all of those slots on the vote look bad, even worse than a normal mislynch because most of the reasons were crap or not given.

Estelle and Luna also had a good interaction with their little wink wink nudge nudge at start of day, I think they both come out looking better from that

I have been reading Dubu and Juno town on posts but both visiting Atlas over Juliette makes me want to jump out of a window

Donā€™t out your partner like that Dubu, itā€™s bad form

AiMi_Comfy

Youā€™re lost on Dubu and Juno?

The watcher and the doctor both visited Atlas. This means theyā€™re not wolves together unless they did an FPS thatā€™s mechanically suboptimal. Itā€™s possible but unlikely.

Doesnā€™t mean one canā€™t be a wolf but both would be wild.

wolves donā€™t have communication

dubu is probably not a wolf tho unless they are jedi mind tricking me

I donā€™t think theyā€™d be W/W anyway for Junoā€™s language of ā€œDubu visited Atlas I think itā€™s townyā€ just doesnā€™t read partnered

I am concerned that Juliette was killed over potential strong roles that the Competitors would have

Gotta dip for now but gonna try to reread later, if not Iā€™m off starting tomorrow night and def gonna try to get my bearings here